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Video Production Club Aug 3, 2012


This is a club dedicated entirely to the production of visual media through the use of cameras and software. I'm a very strong supporter of Newgrounds adopting a video portal, dedicated entirely to video production outside of the Flash Portal, that is similar to sites such as Youtube or Vimeo... but with with YOU guys, Newgrounds.com, showing off your talents to your fellow NGers and the world.

RULES:
- Serious video submissions that the user(s) put effort into.
- No bullying, trash talking, or any other form of bringing another artist down.
- Have fun, dream big, and bring together a Newgrounds Production Crew.

Post links of a short video you've done that had the elements of pre, pro, and post-production in which members of this club will share together.

I graduated college with an Associate of Applied Science in Video Production, and here are some tips that will save your 10's of thousands of dollars if you're serious about making movies or shorts:
Attempting Towards Professionalism
- High Definition, at least 720p. This is your first step towards being representable.
- Good use of sound. Not just soundtracks (which you totally should use from the Newgrounds Audio Portal, and credit them accordingly), but decent levels for your dialogue. Test your actors levels, make sure the meter is recording in the 0 to -6 portion that glows green. You can always turn dialogue down, but it sucks to try to fix it. Have your soundtracks at a good level without spiking as well, and when you cross mix dialogue and soundtracks make sure to gently fade the latter so it doesn't overpower your actor's dialogue.
- Color Balance. White balance your camera every time the light changes. It is incredibly important and separates you from the rest. Most video editing software has different forms of color correction (i.e. Channel Mixer, Brightness/Contrast, etc.). Have a feel for what you want your video to look like and stick with it.
- Framing and Patterns. Ever notice how every movie and television show you've ever watched (or at least now you will) always have eyes of the subject in the upper thirds of the screen? They do that because audiences tend to look at the top of the screen more than anything else. A badly framed shot subconsciously annoys people, and if you throw bad audio into the mix you have lost a viewer. Basic patterns you can do with your actors to make shots intriguing and add more depth are known as A, I, and L patterns. Examples: A pattern would involve three actors standing or sitting in the shape of an A, I pattern would be a conversation between two people (think a chess game), and an L pattern could be three people again but say one person is at the end of a table and 2 others are sitting side by side on one of the sides, creating the shape of an L. You will see everything I just said if you look at anything you watch from now on, try and name patterns and think out your own shot structure. All of this makes clever use of small space and important over the shoulder shots.
- Do not use zooms. It is unprofessional unless it has an absolute purpose.
- Good shot techniques separate you from the amateur. Always have eyes in the upper third, don't drag on a shot too long, have plenty of shot variety. You can't expect to shoot an entire scene in one shot, you need multiple angles to complete it. Some Master Scene Style Shooting involves filming the shot in its entirely with a wide angle, and filming it again with mid shots and close ups for each actor.

There's just a grain of salt to have, through the future of this thread we can discuss more techniques. Q&A, and problem solving anything video related. Here's to the dedicated who love this art form.


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I have very little video in a digital format which can be transferred - most of the stuff I did was on U-Matic 3/4", VHS, SVHS and Hi-8 (a lot of it was work-for-hire, so I don;t have it anyway). I tried a Digital 8 camera from Sony to get the stuff digital, but it was a joke and a waste of money.
When YouTube first hit the scene, I was immediately grossed out. Now that Google owns it, I guess have to find another site (like Vimeo) to post what little scraps I do have.

Really hope this club takes off - there are a lot of nice analog tricks and tips I'd love to share. Computers are a fine thing, but the stuff that hits the camera lens and mic is 90% of it.


Vault 101 I have (LOST) many old and deleted Flash submissions, (you can't) PM me (dammit Tom) the filename, maybe I (godhelpmeonedayIwill) got it.

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I've done some video work in high school, and I know the basics, well enough to make something that works. I'm not sure if I'll continue with that, I want to be a film director, but I also understand that I will probably fail at that endeavor. Either way, I'm perfect for this, I think.


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I'm in. I make sketches for YouTube but have been having writers block. I thing I'm going to try sites like Viddler and Vimeo since they don't have as many users and there's more room for my original ideas.


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 4, 2012


I know I should shove a link in here, but anyone ever hear of "public access" (as opposed to "community access" where the local tin plated dictators show what they want) cable TV? In the 80's, a law was passed to make 1 out of every 30 channels, open to the public. Franchisees would make a deal with the area they serve, so a studio or and/or equipment is set up somewhere. Usually 1/2 hour to 2 hour blocks are open to the local public to produce their own stuff; no commercial stuff though, unless you were showing off yoga, martial arts, religion, sports.
If you got cable, it's the channel with the weird stuff on it, and not too sharp lookin' either. Another tell-tale sign: crappy little studio, with carpet on the walls and crappy lighting. Great place to learn production.
It's also called PA-TV, though it's on cable... should be PA-CATV.
Best satire of a PATV show.
Public Access TV.


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 4, 2012


Never turn away from a hobby or dream, we all share a unique interest that can be hard to achieve sometimes. There is lots of competition, but this is a site of creativity.

I love how people still have VHS stuff around, I wish I still did. In school I shot on MiniDV for a couple years, but then switched to digital. I like to shoot on SLRs now.

Some of my current equipment that makes a basic production:
Canon 7D
Compressor (my computer throws up trying to render raw 1080)
Adobe Premiere (I used to use Final Cut, but prefer this now)
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Photoshop
Adobe Soundbooth or Garageband
Zoom Audio Recorder
Fluid Head Tripod
Shoulder Mount

I aim to purchase a steady camera mount. My friend has a really good one that he got for around $120.


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 7, 2012


At 8/4/12 11:17 AM, Wanion wrote: Never turn away from a hobby or dream, we all share a unique interest that can be hard to achieve sometimes. There is lots of competition, but this is a site of creativity.

I dunno - this site actually saps my creativity. Maybe if I took a break from it, I could get something put together script and planning wise. You gotta wear sooo many hats to make a video by yourself, and acting during all of it is the hardest. I used to act for a few cable TV shows and it makes it so much easier doing one thing at a time, as opposed to running the whole show.
Just glad non-linear video editing has finally been made affordable enough. Still boggles my mind that the graphics in Babylon 5 were done on an Amiga running Video Toaster in the early 90's (Tom put up a post about that setup a year or so ago, but my partner backed out of the deal).


Vault 101 I have (LOST) many old and deleted Flash submissions, (you can't) PM me (dammit Tom) the filename, maybe I (godhelpmeonedayIwill) got it.

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I'm definitely in for this club. I love making short films when I can. I've made about 3 since I started my first year doing Creative Media Production at College (British college).

Practically all the equipment I use is rented from college. Things like Canon 550D's (I much prefer shooting with DSLRs), shoulder mounts, jib arms etc. They also have old Sony PDs but they're horrific to use with the computers.

My preference in software is Sony Vegas Pro 11, and I plan to start using After Effects soon as my friend can get me started on the basics of it.

This is the short film I made as a final project for my college course, the idea started off as an advert for Rock Band, but it turned into just a music video really. Still, I'm very proud of it and it helped me get onto the next level of my course, so I should be making more films in the near future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZAAJvaBcg&list=UUlwSa8ANtWd PNl6_C7eKuMw&index=1&feature=plcp

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Anyone have any tips on thinking of low budget ideas for a film, sketch, etc?

I have a ton of ideas but I need some dough that I can't get to make it even below average quality.


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 8, 2012


At 8/7/12 05:17 AM, Snuff wrote: This is the short film I made as a final project for my college course, the idea started off as an advert for Rock Band, but it turned into just a music video really. Still, I'm very proud of it and it helped me get onto the next level of my course, so I should be making more films in the near future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZAAJvaBcg&list=UUlwSa8ANtWd PNl6_C7eKuMw&index=1&feature=plcp

Not bad ;) I noticed the composition of the shots improved in the last quarter of the piece (difficult 'cause the drummer is set so far back). Never easy shooting a band while they're jammin' with only one camera (or am I wrong). Everything was audio synched very well too, and the camera angles (in the beginning) lead the action well.


Vault 101 I have (LOST) many old and deleted Flash submissions, (you can't) PM me (dammit Tom) the filename, maybe I (godhelpmeonedayIwill) got it.

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At 8/7/12 03:58 PM, J-Rex wrote: Anyone have any tips on thinking of low budget ideas for a film, sketch, etc?

I have a ton of ideas but I need some dough that I can't get to make it even below average quality.

Necessity is the mother of all invention, my friend. Cheap props and effects are secondary to good script writing though. When I wrote skits, I really tried to push the "what I can't do" to the background as much as possible, and focus on what I could do on the cheap. Watch enough B movies from the past century carefully, and shortcuts will avail themselves.

I have 2 books from the mid 20th century which has some excellent optical tricks that can reduce or eliminate the need for fancy videographic software, so I'll scan n post some helpful pics here soon.

Good luck with the script and pre-production. Keep us up on your progress :3


Vault 101 I have (LOST) many old and deleted Flash submissions, (you can't) PM me (dammit Tom) the filename, maybe I (godhelpmeonedayIwill) got it.

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Response to Video Production Club Aug 8, 2012


Necessity is the mother of all invention, my friend. Cheap props and effects are secondary to good script writing though. When I wrote skits, I really tried to push the "what I can't do" to the background as much as possible, and focus on what I could do on the cheap. Watch enough B movies from the past century carefully, and shortcuts will avail themselves.

I have 2 books from the mid 20th century which has some excellent optical tricks that can reduce or eliminate the need for fancy videographic software, so I'll scan n post some helpful pics here soon.

Good luck with the script and pre-production. Keep us up on your progress :3

Well currently I have an idea on the backburner that I'm not feeling but I for the project I'm going to work on later this week maybe will be entitled "Guns Are For Kids".


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 9, 2012


At 8/7/12 05:17 AM, Snuff wrote: I'm definitely in for this club. I love making short films when I can. I've made about 3 since I started my first year doing Creative Media Production at College (British college).

Practically all the equipment I use is rented from college. Things like Canon 550D's (I much prefer shooting with DSLRs), shoulder mounts, jib arms etc. They also have old Sony PDs but they're horrific to use with the computers.

My preference in software is Sony Vegas Pro 11, and I plan to start using After Effects soon as my friend can get me started on the basics of it.

This is the short film I made as a final project for my college course, the idea started off as an advert for Rock Band, but it turned into just a music video really. Still, I'm very proud of it and it helped me get onto the next level of my course, so I should be making more films in the near future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZAAJvaBcg&list=UUlwSa8ANtWd PNl6_C7eKuMw&index=1&feature=plcp

Not bad at all, Snuff :)

I love making music videos myself, and I love how everything was synced up. I even did a project very similar in college using the Rock Band drum set so you're right at home!
I loved the effects of the side pans with them glistening.


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At 8/8/12 12:30 PM, J-Rex wrote:
Necessity is the mother of all invention, my friend. Cheap props and effects are secondary to good script writing though. When I wrote skits, I really tried to push the "what I can't do" to the background as much as possible, and focus on what I could do on the cheap. Watch enough B movies from the past century carefully, and shortcuts will avail themselves.

I have 2 books from the mid 20th century which has some excellent optical tricks that can reduce or eliminate the need for fancy videographic software, so I'll scan n post some helpful pics here soon.

Good luck with the script and pre-production. Keep us up on your progress :3
Well currently I have an idea on the backburner that I'm not feeling but I for the project I'm going to work on later this week maybe will be entitled "Guns Are For Kids".

Guns Are for Kids? Oh, do post when done :P

Here's a video I recently did with some friends. No dialogue, experimental, and a mock on all the bath salt cannibalism in the media:
BATHSALTS


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 10, 2012


Wow, and I was just about to start a Film Making Club and this appeared! :D

Hey everyone! I hope we all can work and showcase our work soon enough. Oh and Wanion is right about using the Audio Portal as a source for the audio. This place is like an undiscovered gold mine, and the talent here ranges from awesome to super awesome!

I am quite jealous with some of you though. Some of you guys have pretty decent equipment. I just have my Sony HandyCam (capable of HD though ) and Sony voice recorder. (Turns out the Camera's mic is better than Sony's Audio recorder for some reason..but I'm sure it'll be useful soon.)


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At 8/9/12 12:36 PM, Wanion wrote:

Here's a video I recently did with some friends. No dialogue, experimental, and a mock on all the bath salt cannibalism in the media:
BATHSALTS

You're using the Ascend soundtrack from the Audio portal!

I liked your Arm Wrestling video. But I saw the camera in shades. LOL


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At 8/9/12 12:36 PM, Wanion wrote: Here's a video I recently did with some friends. No dialogue, experimental, and a mock on all the bath salt cannibalism in the media:
BATHSALTS

Wow. That came out nice! You can get so much work done when you got another guy you can trust behind the lens, and this piece sure shows it :3 Everyone onscreen looked well motivated, and that's more than half the battle right there.
Nice progression of events - looked like the first few minutes of a good movie (so many cuts).
Also great tight shots, to press the issue.


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Response to Video Production Club Aug 11, 2012


At 8/10/12 08:51 PM, jackripperz wrote:
At 8/9/12 12:36 PM, Wanion wrote:

Here's a video I recently did with some friends. No dialogue, experimental, and a mock on all the bath salt cannibalism in the media:
BATHSALTS
You're using the Ascend soundtrack from the Audio portal!

I liked your Arm Wrestling video. But I saw the camera in shades. LOL

I am so glad you noticed that, my friend. The audio is a gold mine, undiscovered gold on the internet I swear to god. So many kudos to the audio artists on here.


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At 8/10/12 08:51 PM, jackripperz wrote:
At 8/9/12 12:36 PM, Wanion wrote:

Here's a video I recently did with some friends. No dialogue, experimental, and a mock on all the bath salt cannibalism in the media:
BATHSALTS
You're using the Ascend soundtrack from the Audio portal!

I liked your Arm Wrestling video. But I saw the camera in shades. LOL

Haha, oh man you got me. In the past few months I swore off sunglasses, too risky in shoots. Happened a couple times actually.

About your equipment, as long as you can frame shots good and do good editing camera quality isn't everything. Look at movies like Pi for example, dirty as hell but still engaging. You have a major advantage with some good lenses, I won't lie, but still. Lighting is the most important part of the whole process if you're shooting indoors.


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Wow, thanks guys, I was always a little iffy on the video/audio sync, it's definitely out of time in a couple of sections.

I should also add, the camera work was done by a friend of mine who was doing the college course, I was in fact the drummer. This friend (who is no longer my friend), isn't particularly great at using camera, DSLR anyway, and constantly got shots out of focus and changed the entire shot halfway through the take. Which caused a lot of pain and misery.

Also there's a lack of different shots because the SD card in the camera ran out quite quickly due to the 2-3 minute shots. I had at least 25 different angles and sizes planned out but barely got to use any of them which sucked.

In a few weeks my next level of College Media will start and hopefully I'll be posting more about video production as I progress through the course.

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Hey Guys! So right now, I'm making a video called "Solutions". Just a quick thing I wrote to get the juices flowing. I'll be posting it up soon when I'm done! :)


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Totally looking forward to this clud. I really wanna have my shot at making some short films and stuff in the future, i hope u have some sompetetions adn stuff too soon, or just give out random topics and let have their take on it.

and in a motivating note: TOGETHER WE CAN BEAT ALL THE BIG DIRECTORS !!!

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So, Solutions is done!

Press the Captions for English subs. And leave some reviews.

First off, I know there's a lot improvements I should do, so be a bit gentle with reviews ? :D

Solutions


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At 8/12/12 08:35 AM, jackripperz wrote: So, Solutions is done!

Press the Captions for English subs. And leave some reviews.

First off, I know there's a lot improvements I should do, so be a bit gentle with reviews ? :D

Solutions

I would love to watch it Jack, but at least for me it set to private!


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At 8/12/12 12:00 PM, Wanion wrote:
At 8/12/12 08:35 AM, jackripperz wrote: So, Solutions is done!

Press the Captions for English subs. And leave some reviews.

First off, I know there's a lot improvements I should do, so be a bit gentle with reviews ? :D

Solutions
I would love to watch it Jack, but at least for me it set to private!

It's unlisted now.


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At 8/12/12 06:55 PM, jackripperz wrote:
At 8/12/12 12:00 PM, Wanion wrote:
At 8/12/12 08:35 AM, jackripperz wrote: So, Solutions is done!

Press the Captions for English subs. And leave some reviews.

First off, I know there's a lot improvements I should do, so be a bit gentle with reviews ? :D

Solutions
I would love to watch it Jack, but at least for me it set to private!
It's unlisted now.

And by that I mean, you can watch it. Coz Youtube has Public, Unlisted and Private settings.

Damn it. I've been on NG for 7 years and they still haven't put an "EDIT POST" button.


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At 8/13/12 08:04 AM, jackripperz wrote:
At 8/12/12 06:55 PM, jackripperz wrote:
At 8/12/12 12:00 PM, Wanion wrote:
At 8/12/12 08:35 AM, jackripperz wrote: So, Solutions is done!

Press the Captions for English subs. And leave some reviews.

First off, I know there's a lot improvements I should do, so be a bit gentle with reviews ? :D

Solutions
I would love to watch it Jack, but at least for me it set to private!
It's unlisted now.
And by that I mean, you can watch it. Coz Youtube has Public, Unlisted and Private settings.

Damn it. I've been on NG for 7 years and they still haven't put an "EDIT POST" button.

Nice, Jack. Your video quality is pretty good as well.

What I would suggest from you in your next project is more camera angles and cutaways when the camera sways. Enough practice and you're going to have an awesome piece :D

I'm trying to think up my next project with a friend.


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At 8/3/12 12:55 PM, Wanion wrote: - Do not use zooms. It is unprofessional unless it has an absolute purpose.
- You can't expect to shoot an entire scene in one shot, you need multiple angles to complete it.

I disagree with both of these. Zooms can be used very effectively, you shouldn't just shy it away as being unprofessional. I'm also a huge fan of sequence shots, I'm most impressed when a scene is done in a long take. The Korean auteur Hong Sang-soo defies both your rules, he shoots sequence shots of long conversations with people and uses zooms for dramatic emphasis. One of my favorite films of his is The Day He Arrives. It's a really unique trailer, but that clip is taken and reversed from an extended sequence shot. Generally speaking though, your broad advice is pretty solid. There's a whole ton of support for flash artists, but I think it's a great idea to try to foster a home for all these kids who want to make live videos, too.

I'm a filmmaker myself and have been making internet videos for over five years. One of my latest videos, Date, opens with a sequence shot and also has a zoom.

Some of my particularly stronger videos are
- Professional Skateboarders
- The Hypnotist
- Reese's For Dinner
- PIZZA
- Lost Dog
- Serious Audition

I've also made one short film, called The Otaku.

My best advice to anyone else who wants to make videos is simply to keep your stuff short and try to make as much as you can. Nobody wants to watch a five minute video on the internet. I always try to aim for a maximum length of three minutes, which equals three pages of writing. If you're doing comedy, hit your jokes as hard and fast as possible, then get out. Every time you make a video you'll learn something, so keep on making stuff.

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At 8/14/12 11:19 AM, Wanion wrote:
At 8/13/12 08:04 AM, jackripperz wrote:

Nice, Jack. Your video quality is pretty good as well.

What I would suggest from you in your next project is more camera angles and cutaways when the camera sways. Enough practice and you're going to have an awesome piece :D

Yeah, I really made this in a hurry. We had like 30 minutes because I had to go on a date afterwards (Didn't go that well since I broke up with her the following night, big mistake. :C ) But yeah, you're right.

Actually, I'm making these videos because I'm in a competition and I still haven't filmed anything yet. The dead line is September 30th.


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Frank, you have good stuff man.

About zooms and long shots, I believe they can be done if it works well. For example the zoom in your date video is a common zoom that works, or zooms on interviews that are super slow to bring out drama, or even zooms in post production on certain shots to bring you closer. What I mean in general is don't go zoom happy, I've seen hundreds of videos through the years misusing zooms and zooming in on almost anything. Need a center of focus and not just going wild.

I also agree with long shots if the production quality is good enough it will hold the viewers attention.


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