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OK i put no real effort into this,
its more of a statement to see what kind of comments i get back.
i don't understand why people vote 0 on peoples art work, it just seems a bit bizzar really.
personally i won't vote 0 on anyones art, even if i don't like it because i see that someone has put some effort into it and they shouldn't be judged on personal taste alone.
but i guess some of these people probably have there reasons,
i saw one guy that was pretty angry about it, saying they were doing it to put everyones art down and boost there own art higher.
maybe, maybe not
i guess the same would probably be happening in the audio and flash portals too.


Please comment if you can,
i want to hear everyones opinion on this

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I love this comic strip its a great statement ! but those people dont go around ratings 0's for no reason actually they just cant handle the pressure of being cyber bullied you know every one on this site thats been in forums or uploaded a creation has been cyber bullied so its not there fault they got a toxic mind from there favorite toxic website you know like this past two weeks I was being harassed by this mod Big-Boss now im not the type to take my anger out on every one but i tell you what I did goto her *cough cough* his profile and put a angry emotion on every comment in the news feed they had to show others hey this person is a real bad person watch out ! and when i called out for help from other users other MODS came along to make it look like i was in the wrong when i clearly was not !

While I can sympathize, I can not agree.

Personally I like this piece, it's funny and partially true. While I can not agree with anyone who attacks an artist based on their work rather then criticize their work I do however feel your art is... bad. I feel it lacks real personality and style. You seem to draw in a crappy anime style coupled with a rather poor grasp of anatomy, coloring and perspective. I honestly though you were 14 or 15 when I was going through your gallery only to find that your userpage says your 27.

My advice to you is stop with the anime style, it's just not working for you, for now anyways. In order for you to improve you need to practice the very basics. I would suggest you take an art class of some sort just to get you out of your element or just start drawing things you wouldn't normally draw. Draw some flowers, passers-by, a can of soup anything. You need to explore your world through art.

I personally believe that your art should be nothing more then your interpretation of what you find most interesting about somethings form and shape, its color, how it moves, and all of it's physical characteristics. Photo-realism has nothing to do with it but surely it requires great deal of skill, discipline and a keen ability to observe in order to achive that level of mastery. I feel you art does not really express anything about you. A picture is only worth a thousand words if the picture was founded on message and I use this piece as an example of a well founded image. You may disagree with that and I cannot argue with anything you might say to defend your work and what it says about you, it's your art and that who it should matter most to.

But I will say your art has never really evolved in any meaningful way. You seem to draw the same thing over and over again and never seem to challenge yourself too much. I do not claim to be a great artist but I always try to do something new and I pick at every detail, maybe not while I work but certainly after it's all said and done. Often I look at my work and just think it's just all terrible. You can never stop improving but you can settle and that is something you should never do.

I would suggest for no that you do things that are simple. Pick up a pencil and draw on a napkin. I feel you're trying to run without having first learned how to properly stand up tall. If you wish to improve or receive approval from you peers you must really consider reinventing yourself, if anyone thinks what you're doing is wrong then there must be a bit of truth to it even if you can't see it. You must probe it to find out why even if you don't like what you find. When the good out weights the bad is when you can ignore the bad, but should you really?

I leave you with a question, not that I want an answer to it, but rather to give you a thought to consider.

Do you think your art is good?

Rennis5 responds:

i get what you mean and you do have some good points and some pointless comments, first of all age has nothing to do with anything but i like the idea of thinking outside the box and getting a fresh perspective, it has been a long time since i havn't used my tablet to draw something so that probably is a bad thing.
i think i just need to sort out my process a bit better and stop being so impatient,

but this is all kind of off the subject, you'r just talking about my art, i didn't draw this picture because i was offeneded about my art being attacked, i see it on other peoples art too, so i always click the 5 to kill the 0

and yeah, i like most of my art coz some of them are a lot harder to make then what some people realise and the harder ones have some meaning to me
but in general i would say that my art isn't great but i think my art is decent for the effort i put into it and i'm happy with some of them and others i'm not too happy with

Aduurr, wait what?

Derr... I votes 10 for everyone whether is good or bad, is so funny!

It can go both ways, honestly I know what you're talking about and as I do disagree with "Trash-Man-1" on a lot of the things he said like just ignoring the trolls that vote 0 that's complete bullshit. Not to mention the comment "The only way to get recognized or for your art to become a hit is to be with an "in" group otherwise it's almost impossible." that's drivel ignore that. All you need to do is do your best and remember there's always room for improvement, a little bit of natural talent never hurts either, and yes, be humble...

Yeah, don't feed the troll and yeah, ratings might not matter but it's still annoying when someone votes 0 on something you put time into for some stupid selfish or childish reason, or just because they can, it's bullshit and it shouldn't be tolerated.

Honestly, if I had a website like newgrounds I would hire people to moderate and find people who just vote zero because they can they would be warned and finally banned and their reviews and ratings removed, that's how it should work. Sadly that's not the newgrounds we live in.

So if you're going to submit things online for possibly millions to view at their leisure, you gotta have thick skin, don't let it bug you, but if you get the chance fight trolling and immature douche-bags that do the above actions.

Good-luck in the art world my friend.~

Rennis5 responds:

HELL YEAH,
thats a great point if they are voting 0 because its a pointless system then why not just vote 10 on everything or not vote at all, i think those zombies need some brains.
No one has to sit there and take it, why do people bag me out for hitting back?
You do need think skin, but i tend to take it all toung in cheek, but sometimes i just don't understand it and that does get frustrating, thats why i drew this picture.
i have got a pretty good result to, but i was hoping for more comments,
thank you dude, you'r a legend

Well...

If you don't want people to vote zero, then don't go to a website where people can vote on your stuff.

If you can't take the heat, then don't post your stuff. It is the nature of the internet. If somebody can vote something 0, or "dislike" it or whatever, then that is what is going to be hit. Your only escape is if you have an "in" group of people to vote you up. either that or be the absolute best of the best, which usually only results from being in an "in" group to begin with.

Pretty much the entire meaning is: The ratings are pointless. Whether it is a 5 or a 0. A like or a dislike, it's meaningless. The only thing that will help is comments and reviews (and only ones that are actually beneficial and not overly positive or overly negative). If a score sways you either way (getting 5s or 0s), then you are wasting your time. It shouldn't be about the score, it should be about getting information to better yourself as an artist. Also keep in mind that not everyone will like your work, and those who don't, are well within their rights. Just like you probably don't like certain types of art yourself. If somebody is rude and crude, then just ignore them. Also don't let flattery go too far either, as it's not beneficial either (most don't want to know this).

I voted 0, but that is because I can. People have voted me 0, and have commented negatively as well. But I don't care, because it doesn't matter. If a comment is full of bull, then you will know. This is how life as an artist on the internet works. People will troll and flame you for no reason.

All in all, I don't really see the point of this. You are basically just signing on a silver platter to get flamed and trolled. May as well keep it up now though, to show that these types of things will no longer bother you and you will move on, focusing on what actually does matter.

Rennis5 responds:

don't get me wrong, i totally agree with you 100%, i don't get worked up over any of this.
(but sometimes its fun to dish out what other people serve) lol
Number one rule is anything virtual has no value... at all,
(same can be said about video games but thats another subject)
the rebecca black song is a poster subject for that, being really popular because it was so so so frikkin bad.
anyway, this is just a bit of fun.
seriously why not bite back? as long as you can have a laugh its all good.
thank you for the respose too
even if you did vote 0!!
lol

hello there

Ok, so here's my explanation: I hate your art, why? because there's never real effort in it, I wouldn't rate it 0 if I saw some effort. But they are not all like that, I saw some of your pictures that I can clearly see that you put real effort into it like "shepard and liara" and "Standoff". If you check my profile you can see that I have A LOT of art in favourites, so is not like I have nothing better to do that put a 0 everywhere. There's people here that put so many hours and even days to make their work something worth watching and it's a delight to my eyes... but when I see yours, I feel like you're trying to offend those people that put so much into their work. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think you can do better than that but your not trying. Now, if you don't like your work to be judged, well you're on the wrong site my friend. As I said before, I'm not someone that acts like a dick all the time, but in NG there's a lot of these, so you're probably in the wrong site (as you don't like to be judged). Oh and one more thing, there's other artists here in NG that post ridiculus and retarded shit, but they do it with the intension of being funny, what I mean is that they don't put effort in it, but it's because it doesn't need it. Ummmmm... ok, I hope I'm not forgeting anything.

Rennis5 responds:

no offence dude but you are one the worst offenders,
here is what i notice, even tho you havn't been on newgrounds for very long
you don't submit anything,
i don't think you know what you are talking about half the time, you just seem to ramble on and be very abusive,
like how you say i'm trying to offend other artists,
you obviously do not have any idea what goes into the proccess of making any of these artworks otherwise you might at least show a little bit more respect.

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