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Dancing Sun

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Well, this song was random. I was playing back a small beat I made a few weeks back, and then a melody came into my head.


Then BAM, this guy was born!


Or girl, I'm not sexist. XD


Enjoy, and don't forget to review. It's my first dance song, so I need criticism to get better! :D


I know it's not that great at all, and playing it back I can see a truckload of mistakes I made, but I think it had some potential at the least.


I have only been producing for a few months and I think I've already gotten better!

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I've been meaning to review this for some time actually. Never got around to it, but I'll do it now X3.
To me it seems like you have some real talent with making this kind of music. I love how you play with the melody and how you perfectly use the percussion to make the listener dance.
This track has it's faults though.

The main problem for me with this track was that it didn't really have any proper structure. There was no intro or drop. Everything just sounded like one, long break. When making dance you never want start of with everything you have, if you know what I mean. Try starting the track with ever a soft lead, or with just the chord progression. Then you can either modulate in the lead or just put it in directly if you want. After the intro there should be a break. The break can really consist of anything as long as it fits with the rest of the track. The most important thing with a break is that it sounds soft. It shouldn't be as powerful as the drop. Stronger than the intro, but weaker than the drop. This will help making the drop sound bigger than it actually is, and it's this effect that makes people jump up and dance. Just remember, the drop should always be the most powerful sounding part of a track, if you're not making big room or electro house that is.

Second problem with the song, was the part that started at 1:30. I didn't really get why you put that in. The melody that plays over the piano lead is in a totally different key than the rest of the song. Making a song in too different keys is never a good idea tbh, if you're not going for a real messy style that very few people actually enjoy. I just thought that part sounded horrible. To me it sounds like you might just have to move the entire melody one note up, and it should fix it.

The third problem, is that the song is way to repetetive. The melody is mainly the same throughout the entire track with some minor changes now and then. That's why it's important to have structure in your songs. A problem that I often struggled with when I started making dance, is that I made a melody that I think sounded awesome and thought that was all I needed for my track. It's not rly. I would say that for a full dance track, you would at least need 3 different melodies. 1 for the breaks, one for the intro, and one for the drop. This keeps the interest of the listener up.

The mixing is not bad, but could have been better. The kicks and clap clashes at times. Try turning down some of the low's of the clap, and turn down some of the high's of the kick.
Also, the mastering is a bit loud. Try turning down your levels a bit. the sound won't sound so muddy if you do that. It might also be because you're using maximus or something to boost your volume.

So overall I think you have great potential for dance. I actually think you might be more of a House producer actually, so you might want to try to make house music in the future.
The track has it's faults, but for your first attempt, this is pretty good actually :). My first was ALOT worse XD.
Just keep at it, and you'll get pro at it in no time ;)
-Ectisity

Exilious responds:

Wait. Are you reviewing THIS, or the revision? I revised this song, but whatever. I'll take any criticism I can get.

Ok. Yeah, this song wasn't all that great to be honest with you. XD

I really wish I could've done a better job with it, even in the revision. But, what's done is done.

I REALLY appreciate the big tip you gave me on transitions and intros. I always had a hard time trying to implement a proper transition or intro, but now I don't have to! Thanks for the great piece of advice, it'll definitely come in handy! :D

Yeah, there was variation in the melody. I actually did have one, but I didn't know where to put it, so it ended up not being used. :(

I'm not very good when it comes to mixing. Well, I'm better than I remember, but I always had an issue with my volume control. I know the essentials such as:

-The kick must be the loudest sound in the song.
-The clap must be lower than kick, but still noticeable.
-Hi and Open hats must be kept to a minimum volume, for the high end frequencies can become very annoying.
-Never have the melody too loud, or too low.

But what you said about Maximus is correct. I do use Maximus for my volume. Is that bad? Should I not do that? Oh gosh. That's ALL I've been doing. I use Maximus because it allows me to give my kicks a little more bass. Maybe I should only use it for certain sounds, I guess? I hope I'm right about that.

And I've always wanted to produce a house track. I just never knew where to start. Do you honestly think I'd be good in that genre? I like house music a lot. I just don't where to begin.

All in all, thank for the kind words and amazing CC. I really appreciate everything you said here, and will DEFINITELY take it all to heart.

Thanks a bundle Ectisity! :D

I'm going to reiterate much of what Cabbster said, likely to your chagrin. I would like to inform you that I took a listen to your revised version, Shining Sun, and that this review is based on it, not the version here. I just need to get my RRC points.

Ahem, as we were.

Everything is clipping. It's kind of unsettling as a (self-proclaimed and amateur) sound engineer to hear what I, and many others, consider ugly distortion. It happens when your (digital) project is too loud on your master track, and your signal goes over 0 dB. The DAW just literally cuts all signal information above 0dB off. It causes unpleasant inharmonic content to occur. Bring back your faders pretty significantly. There's no need for every single track to be pushing red.

It also sounds like you're overcompressing the master channel. There isn't much difference at all between the loud parts and the not loud parts - i.e. where there are more/less instruments playing. In combination with a signal that's way too hot, you get a signal with bad distortion and no audible volume change?

I'm not saying it's bad, obviously. I gave you four stars. There's plenty of good. I love the melodies, though I would have used a different sound, personally. The piano is kinda shrill. It hurts my ears, maybe I'm just getting old.
I'd say open up the filters on the pad some more. It sounds nice, but I'd like to hear a bit more content from it. You could pull back all the other faders a touch and make it louder.
The transition into the middle part was kinda abrupt, and the middle part didn't really fit with the rest of the song. It used almost completely different instruments. I like the middle part the most, though, so you might try to expand on that idea and make a full song out of it.
The synth in the closing part was great, by the way. I wouldn't have minded hearing it in the tune to add some variation.

To sum it up, good job with what you did, and always look for ways to improve your sound. A bit of work on song organization and your transitions, variation in the melodic content, and some kind of instrumental continuity throughout the song, and you'll be on your way to being a damned fine producer.

{ Review Request Club }

Exilious responds:

WOW THANK YOU! God, I LOVE feedback like this!

Yes, everything is in fact clipping. I actually had a hard separating the harmonics and chords from the actual melody, when I listen to the song. I actually spent a lot of time trying to find different synths to fit, but the one I had was the closet I could get. I guess I wasn't to sure WHAT I wanted.

Also, I to agree that the transition to the middle part was abrupt. I wasn't sure what would be good way to introduce it. This was my first time doing a dance song, so I wan't very familiar on transitions within this particular "genre."

But the middle part is my favorite part as well to be honest. It was just so.....good. At least to me it was. I think I will make a song based off of that idea. Give the people something they want to hear. And that ending synth you heard was actually the piano in the background of the melody. I guess by itself, it sounds really good instead of me slapping a melody on top of it.

Thank so much for your kind words! I really appreciate the helpful review you gave here! It'll really help me to improve, just as every review does.

Cheers! :D

good foundations and overtone!

Exilious responds:

Thanks! I know it needs a lot of work though. :D

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3 min 23 sec

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