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T-Logic - Terrified

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This is one of those pieces that I REALLY have to explain before you listen to it. XD


This was originally written and recorded in the spring of 2014. I thought I had lost it, and I was reflecting on how unfortunate that was a couple of days ago when I found it on my old laptop under the very un-descriptive name "ABM.6." I re-mastered it (as best I could) in August 2015 and decided to upload it here. ^^ I wrote this song for my music tech class during my junior year of high school, a rather grim and sleepless part of my life. The lyrics involve a lot of kinda cliché metaphors and stuff...but I didn't feel any need to change them. Also, I accidentally wrote the chorus WAY out of my vocal range, and I'm fully aware that when I sing "I need someone," it sounds like either a) I'm choking or b) a mixing catastrophe. I'm an extremely self-conscious person, so I was really hesitant to upload anything with me singing here until recently. XD Besides, I don't really have the proper equipment at home to record anything in decent quality.


This was written in Garageband 6, recorded in LogicPro, and re-mastered in Garageband 10. I have no idea how long I've spent working on this piece in total, but probably a really long time between practicing the vocals, composing the instrumentals, and painstakingly trying to mix and master something in Garageband today. I hope you enjoy...er...something about this piece, even if it is just the strange combination of an intense electric guitar and a Wurly jazz piano.


LYRICS:


I've been wanderin' down this road,
toward the path I wanted.
They said "just beyond the grove,"
I'm still carryin' the dead.
I see the stranger with the flashlight
shinin' so harsh, yet so bright.
He leads me on through this plight
and before the grove, I take flight.


But then winter came,
my skeleton showed through the flesh.
I lost my name
and split off from the rest.


Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh


Refrain:
I need someone to bring me back to this life,
and I'm searchin' for this freedom defined.
My future's skating on thin ice, yeah!
And I'm terrified...


Let's go!


---


Oh, I was pushed underwater.
I see the shore and I'm tryin' to get back.
I'm fightin' my way through fog, oh-oh, woah-oh-oh,
but there's nothin' solid to swing at, oh-oh.


Woah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh.


[Refrain]


---


Don't stop, carry on,
and make your own life worth it.
Clay dries out so
there's no need to wait.
Chase it like it's
life or death.
And...
before it's too late.............

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Never be afraid to sing. I'm still terrified to sing. The music works and the lyrics are not halfway near as bad as you think. It's just that you're putting too many syllables into the Vocals. You know this already, but if you want to sing yah gotta use it as an instrument. That was the dumbest sentence I've ever written, of course you know that, but give your voice a chance to sing instead of just saying the words.

TaintedLogic responds:

"if you want to sing yah gotta use it as an instrument"

==> That's actually really insightful advice. Thanks man! ^^

Wooooo I REALLY need to catch up on TL reviews. :D HERE WE GO!

The song may be quite simplistic in parts, but has a TON of charm and some great singing and lyrics! :D Compositionally, it's quite good! Sound quality is... eh... Garageband-y (that familiar bass :P ), but I'm always impressed with the way you can make the most of the limits of Garageband! You've got tons of different instruments and details, and I love all the layering going on in the background during the refrain!

There were also so many awesomely interesting tidbits in your composition. That sudden pause in bass and drums at 0:25, the sustained guitar and organ blasts that slowly lead into an explosive chorus, the guitar solo with slightly sped up tempo at 1:42 (and the transition leading up to it! - the transition out of it is VERY smooth too), all the different instruments that pop in and out of the song as if they were added just for a few specific purposes (lookin' at you, clavicle and electric piano)... and that's just the tip of the iceberg for what I enjoyed XD

Production-wise, you've pretty much nailed the instruments. How do you even master this good in Garageband? From my experience, it's near impossible to get a mix this clean! I always end up adding too much reverb or having instruments that just clash no matter what I do. But your mixing is just so crystal-clear! Well, for the instruments at least - which leads me into the vocal aspect of the song!

I am SO glad you chose to do a song with singing. You've got a ton of talent and a ton of potential! You can definitely carry a tune well, and with a little refining, you could easily grow into a GREAT vocalist! I'm not that qualified to judge your singing, but it did appear to me that you might have benefitted from a higher register of vocals, since it got a liiiittle pitchy in the deeper notes of the song. Also during the chorus, you sound reluctant to sing with the full power of your voice! You're probably recording in a room of a house or something, but if you're ever alone, really unleash that TL beast! :P

Your lyrics are also great. Words-wise, I love all the symbolism you put into the piece XD Rhythm-wise, I feel there are a few places that you could improve the flow of the song. For example, in the lines where you rhyme "flashlight/bright", the flow is slightly disrupted by the fact that you don't end the two rhyming lines with a similar rhythm. When rhyming lines together, it's normally best to finish the rhymes in a similar rhythm, but that doesn't mean you can't end on a different rhythm. You could be adding lots of cool musical elements - perhaps an abrupt transition? Symbolism? Matching a melodic interlude? The possibilities are endless!

TL;DR: great song! Loved it! KEEP SINGING, DUDE! :D

TaintedLogic responds:

Aww, thanks so much, LunacyEcho! I really appreciate the detailed feedback on this one. I totally agree with you on the simplicity point. In fact, I think I purposely tried to make this a little simpler after a couple of failed, overly-convoluted projects. I'm gracious for your compliments on the singing, lyrics, composition, and charm (seriously though, I'm not the sort of guy to be charming...ever.........).

"Making the most of the limits" --> Yeah, I really appreciate that comment! That's exactly what I try to do. ;D

I'm glad you noticed all those details, and I'm EXTREMELY impressed that you discerned all of the slight tempo changes in the piece.

I personally don't think the mixing is THAT good. It might also help that I have one of the most recent versions of Garageband (maybe you weren't using Garageband 10 when you used to use Garageband?). Still, thank you for your praise. :)

I agree with what you said about the singing except for one thing: yes, my voice cracked on the low notes a bit, but I think that was more of an articulation mistake. I should NOT create a higher register for my vocals. The whole reason why the chorus sounds so weak is that it was out of my vocal range, and I failed to take that into consideration when composing the song. I was actually recording in the studio at my high school, but also keep in mind that this was almost 2 years ago by now and my voice has developed since then. Still, I'm really glad you think my voice has potential! That's great news. ^^

Thanks also for your compliments on the lyrics. I understand what you mean about the rhyming pattern. I think I kinda wrote the lyrics before making them fit with the music, which was pretty stupid in retrospect. Still, I really appreciate the thorough review, my friend! Hopefully, this weekend I'll have some time to catch up on LE reviews. ;)

More singing plz! Next time make your voice a little louder in the mix (especially during the chorus), and put some reverb on it and compress it a little. Also don't feel afraid to auto tune your voice until you get to have really good pitch, though you did pretty good pitch-wise.

You did WAY better than what I was expecting for a first go! Keep it up!

TaintedLogic responds:

Aww, thanks Johnfn! I believe I already explained to LucidShadowDreamer that I couldn't figure out how to add reverb in my version of Garageband (as pathetic as it sounds...), but compressing them is probably a good idea. I appreciate the encouraging review! ^^

RAD. FUCKING. SONG!
I really like the direction of this. The spaghetti western opening is pretty cool. It really sets up a lonesome road feel. The addition of the delay during the verse is fucking perfect. I applaud your bravery in singing. I would never do it. You have a nice voice, though, and I think we could use a little more of it around NewGrounds.

As always, all this stuff I'm about to vomit are thoughts I had while listening, and are things I would consider if I was working on this project. I always consider that approach the most helpful (which you've been extraordinary with btw...thank you!). It's up to you to decide what you'd like to take or leave.

Right at :20 where the drums and bass start, I'd consider layering a chord in the guitar so it really feels like it arrives. The sparse intro builds up a lot of tension and I think making that spot feel like a real landing would help with the forward momentum. If you lean on the whammy bar a bit for that chord or pull it in and out of tune with your fingers you can add some real surf rock/pulp fiction vibes to this which could be cool. It would help glue the song together if you dropped a guitar chord on the down beat of the 1st and 3rd bar of every third bar phrase. Just slow strum it and let it ring over the next bar. That way you can keep the song sparse, but help drive it forward just enough to get to the chorus.

I really wanted the guitar to continue through :50 with the delays. I think having a new musical character for that line specifically was a nice way to tone paint, but the addition of the organ does that already. The delay guitar sort of helps glue all the spaces together. If you ended up doing the bendy guitar chord earlier, it'd be a good opportunity to bring that back again at the down beat at 1:10. It would also help with the build up into the chorus.

I feel like the highs could be equed up a bit in general. I'm being EXTREMELY picky, but the mix feels just a touch dull in some of the non-chorus parts. You could add a tiny (TINY) bit of overdrive distortion to the kick and snare as well. Add a bit more to the kick. In general, when low sounds need to have more punch, distortion does wonders as it will fortify the upper partials of the frequency spectrum which makes low end FEEL fatter without having to actually pull it up in the mix. The snare would get a little more sparkle and smack from the distortion as well. Either that, OR maybe push the drums back in the mix a bit with some subtle reverb? The room sound might help some of the highs ring a bit more. I don't think it needs to go all 80's stadium rock, but a super subtle room reverb barely mixed in will give the impression that the drums are further back in the room. Also, maybe consider playing the hi hat in on a keyboard? The time is insanely consistent as is the velocity which works for awhile, but it starts to stand out after a bit. Playing it in live will give it a little more variance in timing as well as attack.

I really like your vocal delivery. It's morose and a little deadpan (and I mean that in *very* good ways). It sounds like you might have been monitoring your vocals as you were singing in the headphones? When people hear their own voice or instrument RIGHT in their ear, they typically play/sing more hesitantly or quietly because they're not used to hearing the sound coming from a source that closely. I usually mute the playback in whatever I'm laying down and put the headphones on over one ear only so I can hear the instrument or voice more naturally to evoke a more natural performance. Also, if you're using a condenser mic, stand a little further back and project.

I really dig the bass line. Was there a reason you dropped the bass out at 1:20? I feel like it would help fill out the low end if you rock some roots with a more or less regular straight 8th note rhythm.
The call and response synth line is super effective. You nailed it with that.

There are places where you could fatten up the bass by doubling it with sine waves. It wouldn't work for every note, but there are landing spots that I feel could seem more like an arrival if the bass was a bit fatter. Usually I'll use a sine wave an octave or 2 below the bass, and mix it SUPER quietly. You don't want it to be obvious that there's a double happening, but it'll just fill out some of the frequencies in the low end that the bass guitar doesn't cover. This usually works best on long tones. Make the attack long enough so the sine doesn't pop on the attack, but not so long that there's a noticeable morph in the timbre of the bass.

I like the long decay on the keyboard line (sounds almost like a rhodes?) that you start doing at 3:50. I think the two keyboard chords before that could have the same character?

There are really a lot of directions you could go with this song. As soon as I started typing a suggestion, I thought of a lot of other things that could be done with it. That's a sign that you have some really evocative writing! I'd love to hear more like this from you. Nice work!

TaintedLogic responds:

First of all, thank you SO VERY MUCH to take the time to write this extremely detailed and helpful review, SleepFacingWest. I'm really glad you liked the "lonesome road feel." :)

"I applaud your bravery in singing. I would never do it." --> Thank you very much! The thing is, I myself felt like I would never do it just a couple short months ago. XD

Regarding :20, I guess I myself wanted :30 to be more of the arrival point, although I really appreciate your thorough constructive criticism regarding layering the guitar sound and driving the piece forward. A lot of the language you use in this review suggests that I recorded the guitar, which is not true. They're all electronic samples, I'm afraid. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not THAT talented. XD

I definitely concur with your comments about :50. I think I had actually chosen a number of instruments I had wanted to use for this piece beforehand, and then tried to find ways to squeeze them in (keep in mind that this was well over a year ago). You've given me a lot of helpful compositional advice here that I'll most certainly consider in the future, so thanks a boatload for that!

I recognize your comments about the mix. I have yet to experiment with distortion too much, so it's good to know what to do with it when I get the chance. ;) As for the reverb, I had planned to add a lot, to the vocals, snare, and guitars, but as pathetic as it sounds, I couldn't figure it out in Garageband. I could add a reverb automation, but no matter which track setting I put my instrument on, I couldn't drag the bar above "0%." -_- As for playing the hi-hat on the keyboard, I completely agree once again! I need to humanize things more, and once I do get around to that, hi-hats are probably a good place to start experimenting. ^^

I'm glad you liked the vocal delivery. That's an interesting assumption about the headphones, but I don't think that was the case. First of all, I think I wanted (at least the verses) to be a bit deadpan, and I recorded this early in the morning when I probably hadn't gotten much sleep the night before. Also, my school's not-so-soundproof recording studio is right between the orchestra room and the Music Tech lab, so I was a little self-conscious about projecting my voice, I suppose.

To be honest, I don't remember why I dropped the bass line at 1:20, but I'm glad you enjoyed it nevertheless. I did have those punchy guitar chords in there at 1:20, but I agree that a straight 8th note rhythm would've added some meaningful texture to the chorus. I'm not sure what you're referring to with the "call-and-response synth line." Maybe the lead guitar melody during the chorus?

Thank you so much for your advice regarding the sine waves. I think you've given me the inspiration to explore a lot of different compositional and mixing techniques! :D

I'm glad you liked the coda. That instrument at 3:45 is actually a Wurly.

Again, I deeply appreciate your thorough response here, SleepFacingWest! You're clearly very knowledgeable, and it's generous of you to give me so much advice. I'll use it the best I can. ;D

What is this? Tonal music? And not only that. There's singing too! o.O
Indeed, I did not expect this, especially not while you're still running NGAUC :D

I almost feel tempted to take out my revenge on this track. Alas, I'm too caught up composing for NGADM, and will be the entire week, and I want to review this now.

First off, I'm very glad you found this. This is very entertaining to listen to.
I really like your instrument choices. The bass is great, imo. The other instruments, like the electric guitar and organ are nice too, as are the other things that show up here and there. And I really like the melodies here, as well as the tempo changes. The percussion does its job really well. Some of the instruments could probably have higher quality though. But I actually like the way you mixed this. Apart from the vocals. They feel too dry to me.

The melody for the vocals is good too. Most of the rhythms are also fine, but at the end, they seem a bit... Flat?

Now, in my opinion, the weakest link is the singing. It sounds like to the most part, you're holding back too much. At 0:51, I'm not sure whether it's the singing or the intrument that is out of tune. But one of those two definitely is ;)

And when you sing the refrain, it sounds like you're straining a bit at the high notes. But the draw-back-ness is the thing that could use the most work, I think. Places like "whoah-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh" and even part of the verses loose some of their effect because of that. The thing is, occasionally the vocals are fine. But at other parts, they're not. I'm guessing you weren't 100% secure on how to sing this piece when you recorded this?
I also think that some parts could use some raw passion when singing, especially in the refrains. Like, FULL POWER on the final refrain would be amazing :D

But yeah. I'm sure someone will come along to give you better tips when it comes to singing some time later. I can tell you didn't hit every note cleanly, so that could use some work.

Now, for the strongest part of the track. I think it's easily the lyrics! They're great!!
Really. I think they're wonderful.

Overall, this was a very enjoyable listen (or rather, listens, as this is probably my 5th one). I hope you'll do more of these!!!
Great job ;)

TaintedLogic responds:

Thank you so much, LSD! I've always admired the pace at which you upload songs, as well as how you upload songs that you know aren't perfect (and believe me, that's not a slam at all. I have this extreme sense of self-consciousness about me so that I feel like every piece I upload to NG has to be better than the last one, but in reality I think it's hindering my ability to improve). I'm glad you liked the instrument choices, and after the high-passing complaints on "Heuristic," I definitely wasn't going to forget about the bass. ;)

About the instrument quality, I most certainly agree. Unfortunately, I have yet to load more samples into my version of Garageband, so I used a lot of rudimentary presets here, tbh. I'm glad you liked how I mixed it, although personally I think a lot of the instruments could've come through a lot clearer.

The vocals are dry, yes. In fact, I wanted to put some reverb on them, but, as pathetic as this sounds, I couldn't figure it out. I found out how to add a reverb automation, but no matter which track setting I had (Rock Vocals to Male Lead to Ambient Vocals to No Effects), it wouldn't let me drag the bar up above 0%. -_-

I'm glad you liked the melodies and the rhythms. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the "flat" rhythms...maybe that I overused a lot of them?

I also concur with your "holding back" comment. I don't have a very powerful voice. I need to work on that. At :51, the singing is out of tune. Unfortunately, with limited time in the studio, I wasn't able to re-record all of the tracks I wanted to. I think that also serves as a response to your "secure on how to sing the piece" comment. Never mind the fact that I'm not actually good at singing. As for "straining on the high notes," I couldn't agree more. I believe I already mentioned in the description that I accidentally wrote the chorus out of my vocal range, and then painstakingly tried to rise to the occasion. DX

I'm really glad you liked the lyrics, though. As you know, writing is another passion of mine, so that means a lot! :')

I hope I'll do more of these too. I might be able to have access to some recording equipment at college, but not until at least 2nd semester. The Music Technology course at Bates has a prerequisite, which (if I'm lucky) I'll be able to take in the fall.

I'd like to reiterate how much I appreciate such a positive response here, though. I feel like I took a huge risk with uploading this track to NG, and it's a pleasure to know that it might just have started paying off. :'D

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