At 12/26/20 12:09 AM, UncleLad wrote:At 12/24/20 01:43 PM, EdyKel wrote:So, you can't dispute what what I said about Gypsy, and all you can do is make excuses, project, and deflect. Son, you are biased as hell, and that automatically makes everyone who disagrees with you biased.
Your entire argument is a conservative talking point. Antifa is bad, beating up innocent and law abiding people, making them racists. And you give me this silly infomercial, with a made for TV far right narrative, of evil and good, with only one perspective. And you think that everyone is going to buy that? Yes, you are gullible.
Not only do other accounts differ over Gypsies claim, but the whole incident dusted the cobwebs in my mind. I remember reading about it, about a group of far right Proud Boys who were beating up people they suspected of being Antifa, and they got a lot of bad press that day. The thing about the proud boys is that some of them have in their charters an initiation that requires new members to beat up someone from antifa.
Yet, you have this one media outlet, and supposed journalist, trying to gaslight the whole situation by painting an entirely different picture of that day that is not even collaborated by the cops. This would explain a lot of things about how Gypsy wasn't so innocent, and how his own action, which seemed to be about promoting racism, and agitating other groups, for shits and giggles, seemed to be what led to the violent confrontation he was in. I think his alternative persona was already there, and he does this shit for attention, and to get sympathy. And you basically, and blindly assumed, that he was telling the whole truth.
Extremely hypocritical of you. You yourself change the topic often in your discussions, or downright ignore questions and sources and dismiss them as propaganda when it doesn't line up with your ideology.
These things happened: there was a fight, there was doxxing, there was harassment. These things radicalized Paul Miller.
And these things can't be justified by changing the subject to other people who you say were lying or so. And you can't whine about a news article's bias when you've sent fucking Yahoo articles in the past.
I always love this game. You're bias, no you are bias, no you are bias. Yahoo offers various perspectives from the left and right, and is often considered close to the center or neutral. NBC is also considered pretty neutral. OAN, on the other hand is pretty far to the right.
How did I change the topic? I just challenged your claim, along with Paul Miller' story. The only way you could have perceived that as changing the topic is thinking that challenging your echo chamber is off topic.
So, again, you have nothing, outside of promoting far right narratives, and further going off topic by being a hypocrite by focusing on me and assuming that Miller was telling the truth - which ignores the the roving band of proud boys beating up people they suspected of being antifa. You also ignore that Miller was trying to get into a proud boy event (didn't havea ticket) - the same group who revels in getting into fights with Antifa. The same group that the FBI labels as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism.
So, yes, he wasn't that innocent, and probably believed in a lot of the same racist shit that the Proud boys believed in, and probably agitated the situation on that day, only to get involved in a scuffle - then played the victim card.
At 12/25/20 10:15 PM, UncleLad wrote:The man before the disaster, not caring about race or nothing. Just with a fellow believer of his cause.
Umm... okay.
This reminds me of how Trump use to use this one black, who he called him "My African American", to throw off criticism of racism that were often levied at him. Now that person has quit the the Republican party, saying the following:
Now, the 62-year-old real estate broker, who supported the Republican approach to the economy, said he sees the party as pursuing a “pro-white” agenda and using black people like him as “political pawns.” The final straw for Cheadle came when he watched many Republicans defend Trump’s tweets telling four congresswomen of color, who are all American citizens, to go back to their countries, as well as defend the president’s attacks on Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., and his comments that Cummings’ hometown of Baltimore is “infested.”
“They were sidestepping the people of color issue and saying that, ‘No, it’s not racist,’” he said. “They were saying these people were socialists and communists. That’s what they were saying. And I thought this is a classic case of whites not seeing racism because they want to put blinders on and make it about something else.”
So, you think standing next to, or talking to, a black person doesn't make you racist or say racist shit? That just as bad as people saying I have black friends, to absolve them of saying something racist.
I don't think you know how this all works. I've seen white nationalists claim they are not racist, while promoting the idea of kicking out minorities from the country. The problem is that you have a lot of people who say racist shit, while people like them don't see it as racist, while being easily offend if people call them out on that shit or because they see it as a racist attack against them. So, this argument of yours with Miller next to a black man proves absolutely nothing about his views on race and culture. Which goes back to how Trump was using this black person to stave on criticism, while promoting a lot of racist shit.