Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
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At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
Why do you think would any sane person want to work on your stuff for free, instead of developing their own IP / projects?
At 4/10/22 10:59 PM, ntilcheff wrote:At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
Why do you think would any sane person want to work on your stuff for free, instead of developing their own IP / projects?
Do they have to? No. Intact it would be great for animators to get out there and make their own projects. However, if they are willing to help me, then cool. If not, then that’s fine too.
At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
You're coming in a little Aggressive there bud
At 4/12/22 06:00 PM, Zodiacthemaniac wrote:At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
You're coming in a little Aggressive there bud
Yeah the last time I did this people kept arguing with me so I was stating my point
With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
At 4/12/22 06:29 PM, Fim wrote:With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
I nominate @wandaboy
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At 4/12/22 09:13 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 06:29 PM, Fim wrote:With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
I nominate @wandaboy
i nominate @luis
At 4/12/22 09:26 PM, Wandaboy wrote:At 4/12/22 09:13 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 06:29 PM, Fim wrote:With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
I nominate @wandaboy
i nominate @luis
I’ll do it. But I’m still trying to learn about animation. I mostly pay to be in collabs because i waste peoples time
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At 4/10/22 10:59 PM, ntilcheff wrote:At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
Why do you think would any sane person want to work on your stuff for free, instead of developing their own IP / projects?
I agree @ntilcheff my ips are much better. Everyone should work for me for free instead!
I see a lot of demands, but very little effort put into the actual pitch.
Telling nothing about the project and worst of all, showing nothing. Not even a doodle on a napkin.
Ya think any fish will bite if you only toss an empty hook into the ocean?
At 4/12/22 09:32 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 09:26 PM, Wandaboy wrote:At 4/12/22 09:13 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 06:29 PM, Fim wrote:With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
I nominate @wandaboy
i nominate @luis
I’ll do it. But I’m still trying to learn about animation. I mostly pay to be in collabs because i waste peoples time
You could've had me fooled with that excuse, if it wasn't for you being an absolute legend around here.
So sorry, I ain't buying it. Whatever you would've hypotheticaly animated for the guy, would've hypotheticaly turned out all awesome & shizz.
At 4/13/22 10:44 AM, Guidodinho wrote:At 4/12/22 09:32 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 09:26 PM, Wandaboy wrote:At 4/12/22 09:13 PM, Luis wrote:At 4/12/22 06:29 PM, Fim wrote:With the greatest of respect to OP..
This isn't the first time we've had a thread like this. And the fact remains - animators shouldn't be asked to work for free.
Animation's really hard, it's a skilled profession, it takes a lot of time. And often animators don't even have enough free time to work on their own passion projects.
Said as someone who's job it is to hire animators / designers regularly.
I'd advise that if you're new, and enthusiastic, find a mentor perhaps? Collab with people? But don't ask others to work on your fledging projects unless you're asking friends or fellow students on your animation course or something. Good luck to you x
I nominate @wandaboy
i nominate @luis
I’ll do it. But I’m still trying to learn about animation. I mostly pay to be in collabs because i waste peoples time
You could've had me fooled with that excuse, if it wasn't for you being an absolute legend around here.
So sorry, I ain't buying it. Whatever you would've hypotheticaly animated for the guy, would've hypotheticaly turned out all awesome & shizz.
i had to keep it light hearted in here.
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You sound frustrated, you have three options
1- Learn to do these things yourself
2- Be lucky and find someone who will believe in your project and help you animate
3- Pay someone
unfortunately this is the world we live in my friend, money makes the world go round. I would advise you to do number 1 and number 2 simultaneously
Judging by the passive aggressiveness of this post and your unwillingness to pay and then making such a big deal about it.
I think it would be best for most animators to skip this job offer. As I can speak from experience, It's not worth getting stuck
with projects like these.
At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
How big's the project?
The animation community whenever someone asks for free work with no pitch or anything of value shown:
"In matters of taste there can be no disputes."
At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
Wait animators get paid?
At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project.
this is the part that just confuses me. if you know that people want to be paid and that it’s bullshit like you said, why get so incredibly aggressive even tho you’re the one begging for free stuff LOL
why did you not expect the obvious backlash?
At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
That's what we call an intern children! But if every big studio had this mindset, we'd have another Writers Guild 2008 strike.
Wario is watching
Imagine the balls of someone going to someone and demand they work for free (slavery) on a task which has no hours and literally could take 100s of hours of work to make 10 seconds of animation.
As an animator....The audacity blows my mind. How bout you start demanding free food, rent, gas and anything else in life and see how far that gets you.
At 4/17/22 05:38 PM, Kel-chan wrote:Imagine the balls of someone going to someone and demand they work for free (slavery) on a task which has no hours and literally could take 100s of hours of work to make 10 seconds of animation.
I've seen worse from more established creators on here. Not that it excuses it, but clearly having a silver tongue helps unlike whatever OP's approach here is.
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At 4/10/22 08:11 PM, omfa wrote:Listen, i've already been through bullshit. Yes, I understand animators need to be paid for there work. Yes, I am trying to learn the basic principles of animation myself. But as of right now, if you are willing to animate for a free pricing (and be featured and all that bullshit), then please reach out to me. If you dont like the post, grow up and move on. Im young, and trying to start a project. NOTE: You dont gotta be a professional, but lip syncing knowledge would be great speaking that we kinda need it. Anyways, thanks for reading my shit long post, Please reach out, bye!
What This Project You Are Trying To Develope Some Of The Best Animateors That Are Available Require High Wages For There Work Try Looking At Movies And Find Ambitious Artist That Need Money And Coordinate What You Want To Accomplish Some Of The Greatest Ideas Require Patience
I think enough has been said here. Learn to animate or pay your animators, or at least be able to pitch a legit idea to draw one in for free/royalties. If you do think of the next Big Thing, toss it up on the collabinator.
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