I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
At 9/21/23 10:59 AM, StevSteelEn wrote:I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
As another person coming here from Twitte, no, it's not worth it. Every change to the platform has been shitty to the maximum and I don't believe it'll be letting up any time soon. I'd recommend letting your followers know that you're making the switch to NG.
I've found Twitter to be pretty much useless. Virtually no interaction and there's hardly anything there I'm interested in.
At 9/21/23 11:02 AM, M0zzy wrote:At 9/21/23 10:59 AM, StevSteelEn wrote:I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
As another person coming here from Twitte, no, it's not worth it. Every change to the platform has been shitty to the maximum and I don't believe it'll be letting up any time soon. I'd recommend letting your followers know that you're making the switch to NG.
I already let people know i was moving to newgrounds and instagram ever since the day i quitted. Best to say i probably grew new audience here than twitter, i'll leave it at that and keep pushing
Twitter is only worth going back to for networking with other artists and fans. You will not get any gain out of it by solely posting your work and ditching. It will also impede your work if you interact too much.
If you go back, set a limit. Interact with 10 folks in your niche a day, and check your messages. Post updates and link back to NG. Let that be that.
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If it was used for just posting a lot of artwork on, then twitter isn't the right platform for it. The site was never meant to be an art site. It's a news feed site first and foremost. It can however be used to advertise the other websites you post art on. Using twitter as your main site is not too great, because trying to finding older posts from years ago is almost impossible. I'd say, see how this and other art sites turn out for you before tempting to go back. Then you can compare between those sites and twitter to see which one would better suit you.
I've only started using Twitter because other artists I like are there, and it hasn't been the best. I'm mostly there because the people I follow there haven't left yet, for whatever reason.
Newgrounds and Tumblr are far better in my opinion, hell, even Deviantart might not be as bad... if you turn a blind eye to everything else about that site.
At 9/21/23 03:12 PM, ADR3-N wrote:Twitter is only worth going back to for networking with other artists and fans. You will not get any gain out of it by solely posting your work and ditching. It will also impede your work if you interact too much.
If you go back, set a limit. Interact with 10 folks in your niche a day, and check your messages. Post updates and link back to NG. Let that be that.
You right about that. So far the artists i've been seeing are still on twitter because of freelance and commissions no matter how bad the site is, since instagram aint any better in terms of getting customers. Yeah i think i'd rather stay on newgrounds and grow on there for the fun of it
At 9/21/23 03:12 PM, ADR3-N wrote:Twitter is only worth going back to for networking with other artists and fans. You will not get any gain out of it by solely posting your work and ditching. It will also impede your work if you interact too much.
If you go back, set a limit. Interact with 10 folks in your niche a day, and check your messages. Post updates and link back to NG. Let that be that.
Can agree with this. Using it for some things can't hurt, but knock it way down to the bottom of the priority list for art. Any significant investment if you are not already established is probably a waste at this point.
not really, it doesn't do much in terms of spreading your notoriety. it's only really good for contacting others if they have DMs open
It's worth it if you like watching something slowly die off. Apart from that, at this point, 90% of the remaining active users are crypto scammers and propaganda sockpuppets of some notable fascist dictatorships sharing disinfo between each other. The remaining 10% is Qanon followers and about four or five artists.
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I liked Tumblr better and been ignoring twitter and IG equally as much recently.
However I read Tumblr CEO saying they want to adopt the modern social media algorithms... which means the last bastion of unknown artist being able to be equal with anyone else is about to disappear into the same sponsored feed and popularity contest hole as Tiktok, Twitter and Instagram.
The short answer is "no" and the long answer is "no, it is not worth it".
depends on a lot of things, what are your art/audience goals, do you already have an established following there, what do you draw, does anything else about the website appeal to you, etc
i still use twitter because its the socmed site that feels the most comfortable to voice my random stream of conscious thoughts on, i dont wanna clog up my newgrounds page with 2 sentence dumbass newsposts, i want a bigger audience than just my groupchats, so that kind of stuff gets regulated to twitter/tumblr. if youre like me and are okay blending your art posting with your personal posting, twitter works for that
twitter undoubtedly is better for reaching better audiences....IF you draw popular content. my oc stuff gets more interaction from NG than twitter but the opposite goes for fandom stuff, hell i drew a shitty low effort meme the other day for pokemon thats doing numbers compared to my regular art which i spend days on. furthermore, if you're trying to advertise commissions n stuff, you'll at least have marginally better luck there than on other websites due to the wider audience.
I doubt it. I mean it's just getting worse and worse. Rumors are they're gonna make you pay to use it. It's like going back into a bad relationship why would you go back? Are there some pros to going back? Maybe but there may be more major cons to going back. I just don't think you should that's my personal opinion.
I agree with this. Newgrounds may be smaller but the community here is amazing!
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At 9/22/23 01:46 PM, smashbrethren wrote:depends on a lot of things, what are your art/audience goals, do you already have an established following there, what do you draw, does anything else about the website appeal to you, etc
i still use twitter because its the socmed site that feels the most comfortable to voice my random stream of conscious thoughts on, i dont wanna clog up my newgrounds page with 2 sentence dumbass newsposts, i want a bigger audience than just my groupchats, so that kind of stuff gets regulated to twitter/tumblr. if youre like me and are okay blending your art posting with your personal posting, twitter works for that
twitter undoubtedly is better for reaching better audiences....IF you draw popular content. my oc stuff gets more interaction from NG than twitter but the opposite goes for fandom stuff, hell i drew a shitty low effort meme the other day for pokemon thats doing numbers compared to my regular art which i spend days on. furthermore, if you're trying to advertise commissions n stuff, you'll at least have marginally better luck there than on other websites due to the wider audience.
I honestly only got a big following of 200 because i used to do alot of fanart here and there but also focused on my ocs. Twitter does rather focus on popular content unless you're big enough to have your ocs be talked about. Thing is that i felt like i have to do fanart to get big and it did damage my mentality and i dont really like posting 2 sentenced 1 sentenced personal tweet, i rather keep that to my friend group
If my goals is to just draw whatever i want for fun, whether it be ocs or fanart, Im better off on newgrounds to be real with myself. But yes, if i were to start commissions, twitter is better for customers from what i see.
At 9/22/23 03:57 PM, JuedSefer729 wrote:At 9/21/23 10:59 AM, StevSteelEn wrote:I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
Better become a director of zoophilic snuff films, it's definitely more mentally nutritious than being a twitter user
I beg your pardon?
i dont think twitter worth it,unless you draw a lot of porn
At 9/21/23 10:59 AM, StevSteelEn wrote:I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
Twitter is one of the worst social medias because theres no real “content” to be found on it. Its just peoples opinions. Hours and hours of peoples opinions.
So, when a platforms entire point is just to share your opinions on random shit all the time, its primary userbase is going to be narcissists who love hearing themselves talk and think THEIR opinion is so special that it needs to be heard by everyone. And the only reason they interact with other tweets is to either feel validated, or to find new targets to fire at.
At the end of the day, its just a narcissistic circlejerk. This effect is the reason twitter attracts so many conspiracy nuts and extremists, and why everyone there is so fucking annoying.
The important thing is, content has no place on twitter. Posts with content on it are ignored entirely because twitter only promotes extreme emotion that demands a response. Promoting your stuff on twitter is about as useless as stapling a paper with a link to your song next to the mcDonalds ballpit.
And quitting twitter is, in all honesty, one of the best things you can do for your mental health. When your emotions are exploited this heavily, they become more and more numb and you feel less and less human. As someone that consumes a brain rotting amount of social media, the impact it had of me just not giving a shit emotionally about anything is horrifying looking back.
Youve done the right decision, if I were you I’d never look back
It's just the same old shit honestly
If you are aware that it "turned your mentality for the worst", then you already know why you shouldn't go back. Social media platforms like "X" are designed to encourage addictive behavior and the commodification of parasocial interaction.
That said, if you really want to, it couldn't hurt much to drop in just to cross-post some of your art over there (potentially with a little reminder to your followers than they can find more of your stuff here!) Only as long as you can steel your mind enough to not get pulled into that brain numbing mental loop of alternating little dopamine hits and exhausting outrage that social media is designed to lock you into. (I still think it's not worth it though)
Are you a furry? If not, DON'T USE TWITTER. It's absolute hell. The algorithm absolutely hates art, and it's absolutely impossible to get a post trending without Twitter Blue/(se)X Premium.
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At 9/22/23 04:25 AM, Tenebrare wrote:I liked Tumblr better and been ignoring twitter and IG equally as much recently.
However I read Tumblr CEO saying they want to adopt the modern social media algorithms... which means the last bastion of unknown artist being able to be equal with anyone else is about to disappear into the same sponsored feed and popularity contest hole as Tiktok, Twitter and Instagram.
Oh my god, they better not.
Just when I was starting to get comfy with Tumblr too. Everybody out here complaining and hating on social media algorithms (for good reasons btw), and Mr. CEO over here thinks it's a good idea to use the same algorithm that literally everyone hates??
Make it make sense people, I'm begging.
At 9/23/23 02:58 PM, CarolineSparkle wrote:At 9/22/23 04:25 AM, Tenebrare wrote:I liked Tumblr better and been ignoring twitter and IG equally as much recently.
However I read Tumblr CEO saying they want to adopt the modern social media algorithms... which means the last bastion of unknown artist being able to be equal with anyone else is about to disappear into the same sponsored feed and popularity contest hole as Tiktok, Twitter and Instagram.
Oh my god, they better not.
Just when I was starting to get comfy with Tumblr too. Everybody out here complaining and hating on social media algorithms (for good reasons btw), and Mr. CEO over here thinks it's a good idea to use the same algorithm that literally everyone hates??
Make it make sense people, I'm begging.
Because they don't care if people hate it, as long as they keep using it. The negative effect on your mental health is the intended effect. You spend more time on the platform (and end up seeing more ads) if you are never quite satisfied. Contentedness is meant to always be just barely out of reach, so that you keep scrolling, and keep coming back.
At 9/21/23 10:59 AM, StevSteelEn wrote:I am very aware of the state of that site and how it turned my mentality for the worst before, but at same time i kinda miss sharing my work and seeing people happy and possibly interacting with my characters and such. Yeah this is probably just an urge of thought and i'd lose it later but i figured i ask on this thread for yall's opinions since this is also my first time ever posting one on newgrounds.
twitter is bad, send tweet.
If you care so much about being featured in a video made by news/commentary youtubers, who have nothing to do with their life other than complaining about some random twitter users with little-to-no following, then... maybe?
Otherwise there's no point in returning to that place unless you are a YouTuber, because this place pretty much is nowadays the place where you complain about some extremely minor bullshit that nobody should care about.
I'm not kidding, it feels like a lot of people who are using that site end-up being overreactive over small things (example: this video and/or the channels that go by the name "Rev Says Desu" and "Hero Hei").
Personally I think that they are many alternative sites to post art: of course there's Newgrounds, but also sites like Instagram, Mastodon, Gamejolt, Spacehey, ArtStation or hell, even DeviantArt & Tumblr. Trust me, it's better if you just quit the website, that causes decline of your mental health.
