At 10/4/23 10:31 PM, DioShiba wrote:I'm also going to add this in a separate comment because I feel that it's appropriate given the circumstances.
The main problem I see that you have, the other guy that posted the same topic you have and several other users who have run into this issue on Newgrounds and several other communities do not take the time to lurk around the site to make the effort to understand how it's run and why the culture around here simply is.
This is an inherent fault with some users who don't take the time to know the community they are in and simply think that it's all about posting content when you ought to see what other people are doing, how they are going about creating content, and what happens when they do not do that much to help get their content to the necessary quality, and then you inadvertently break the rules that you neglected to read over somehow demand an explanation publicly when you should be handling things in private with the staff. (<- See that? this is the answer you have been given by everyone in this thread and you ignore it by asking the same question repeatedly and justifying why you feel differently)
Newgrounds is not a platform like Youtube where you're given an explanation when, it could end up being a bullshit explanation to why something was removed and your sole focus is to only upload content and not make the effort to know the people who are using the site at the bear minimum from the users all the way up to the staff.
You're more than welcome to talk to the staff about why your content was removed. You may get the reasons why, you may not. I'm not saying that you won't get them, you just shouldn't expect it. But there is no point in bringing up this issue for everyone to see. Hence, why you aren't owed an explanation.
Everyone has intelligence, including you. But if you aren't going to use it and expect us to hold your hand and not act independent accordingly, then why should we bend over? That wouldn't be fair to anyone else when we are doing what we can to better people in that regard. Otherwise, how in the fuck does that help anyone who genuinely want to grow?
We're a small community compared to Youtube with our own niche. And for what its worth the formula in how the rules and norms on this site have been successful to say the least even when the times have changed and the core format of the site has very rarely changed and when it has it still stuck with things such as the BBS and portals themselves.
That's something you should take into consideration, not just for Newgrounds, but anywhere you go.
Hey, I'm new here & I don't see any rules about us HAVING to immerse ourselves in the social culture here (though of course we should cooperate, critique constructively, contribute by scouting when able to, etc). And a community IS made up of its members. Which is why it's important for members to have a say in said community, is it not?
So why's everyone dogpiling against this, instead of taking this feedback as the perfectly reasonable suggestion it pretty much is?
Why should anyone, old or new here, bend over backwards to accept a convoluted, vague system that's overcomplicated just because "that's the way it is here"? Why can't the way things are here ever be allowed to improve? Is that seriously what I'm to expect here? :/
Sure, now maybe you're thinking "You're an outsider, you haven't been assimilated into the collective yet, so what do you know? We've been here a long time, so we know better!"
But... Why CAN'T there just be a little form box or something so that, whenever someone with authority removes someone else's content, they fill in a "Reason:" box with a reason? Even just a little short sentence? That makes perfect sense to me, & ensures that people who really don't understand what happened can learn their lesson (or dispute it if there was clearly no such wrong).
Are those in charge worried that would empower us members too much? To be informed? So it's better to keep us in the dark? :/ Cuz that's the only explanation I can come up with.
Otherwise, why on earth would you folks REALLY think it's perfectly fine for mass numbers of people, probably hundreds a day, to have to go pick a random mod & go "Why was my thing removed?", & for the mod to have to go find who did it, ask why, then relay the message back or whatever, in a pointless back-&-forth that wastes EVERYONE'S time?
When there could just be some quick letters typed into a box, & barely anyone has to bother any mods about the results, since they can then look up the part of the rules they supposedly broke. SIMPLE!
You folks so adamantly rejecting any words DARING for this convoluted nonsense to be called into question... It's like OP dipped their toes into a super-heated, near-boiling pool & immediately go "OW! This is WAY too hot!"
And all the frogs that have been in this pool, slowly heating up over time so they don't notice, turn to look at them & say in unison, "What? It's not hot. It's fine! You need to get used to it!"
Like... do I REALLY wanna stay here & "make the effort to understand how it's run" if it means I gotta boil in the process? And expect to get yelled at if I'd suggest that the giant should stop turning up the knob? :/
