At 10/12/21 04:57 PM, Homicide wrote:born gay or is it a choice?
Just cause I like men that doesn't make me gay
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At 10/12/21 04:57 PM, Homicide wrote:born gay or is it a choice?
it's not a choice to be born, or to be gay
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At 10/13/21 06:04 AM, Moderatedevil wrote:At 10/12/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:No one chooses to be sexually traumatized as a youngin.
People can definitely choose to be painfully ignorant and unfunny, however.
It's not funny because it's not a joke.
Happily ETS'd.
At 10/13/21 08:18 AM, TailsPrower wrote:At 10/13/21 06:04 AM, Moderatedevil wrote:It's not funny because it's not a joke.At 10/12/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:No one chooses to be sexually traumatized as a youngin.
People can definitely choose to be painfully ignorant and unfunny, however.
In the introduction they give some solid possible explanations you seemed to gloss over, "(1) adolescents who reveal their same-sex sexual orientation are targeted for maltreatment; and (2) adolescents exploring same-sex attractions may put themselves in risky situations, increasing likelihood of maltreatment. A second explanation proposes that sexual orientation minorities disproportionately exhibit gender-nonconforming behaviors in childhood and are targeted for maltreatment."
Though I know the only one you actually cared about was this, "A fourth explanation is that maltreatment increases likelihood of same-sex sexuality."
Sexual abuse is something that is terrible and yet terribly common. Though that doesnt make gay people. Having someone speak for me or anyone else when not only do they not know me, but are also completely willingly ignorant of anything that wouldnt dismiss us so easily, is infuriating at best. Did being sexually exploited really make me so? No. I grew up nonconforming without anyones help or desire. My family very much did not approve of me being so, yet I was. I wore feminine attire, acted as such, had feelings for other men as you would a woman, all before anyone ever put the idea in my head or even so much as touched a hair on mine. Was I open about it? Yes. Did that lead to me getting abused? Yes. Instead of dismissing me and everyone else on a topic you wouldnt begin to know about, you should consider closing your mouth. Being abused did not make me this way. Me being this way led to me being abused. And you ignoring that is proof you not only dont care, but want yet another reason to dismiss the gays. But I dont really see who's surprised anymore.
"People don’t decide who they’re attracted to, and therapy, treatment, or persuasion won’t change a person’s sexual orientation."
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At 10/13/21 04:18 PM, Moderatedevil wrote:In the introduction they give some solid possible explanations you seemed to gloss over, "(1) adolescents who reveal their same-sex sexual orientation are targeted for maltreatment; and (2) adolescents exploring same-sex attractions may put themselves in risky situations, increasing likelihood of maltreatment. A second explanation proposes that sexual orientation minorities disproportionately exhibit gender-nonconforming behaviors in childhood and are targeted for maltreatment."
This is where you fail to read between the lines. The first "possible" explanation isn't even relevant to my original statement because I specified early sexual trauma as a precursor to the development of homosexual ideations. You can't come out (revealing same-sex sexual orientation) until after you turn gay.
The second explanation is a given. I acknowledge the fact that many homosexuals are abused based on their orientation. I've seen it. You've probably experienced it. It's an ugly reality.
Though I know the only one you actually cared about was this, "A fourth explanation is that maltreatment increases likelihood of same-sex sexuality."
Because this is the only one that actually makes sense, especially in relation to my original statement as I previously mentioned.
Sexual abuse is something that is terrible and yet terribly common. Though that doesnt make gay people. Having someone speak for me or anyone else when not only do they not know me, but are also completely willingly ignorant of anything that wouldnt dismiss us so easily, is infuriating at best. Did being sexually exploited really make me so? No. I grew up nonconforming without anyones help or desire. My family very much did not approve of me being so, yet I was. I wore feminine attire, acted as such, had feelings for other men as you would a woman, all before anyone ever put the idea in my head or even so much as touched a hair on mine. Was I open about it? Yes. Did that lead to me getting abused? Yes. Instead of dismissing me and everyone else on a topic you wouldnt begin to know about, you should consider closing your mouth. Being abused did not make me this way. Me being this way led to me being abused. And you ignoring that is proof you not only dont care, but want yet another reason to dismiss the gays. But I dont really see who's surprised anymore.
Anecdotals alone are inadequate counters in the sphere of objective discussion. There are other nurture factors that can contrbute to this outcome - like how present and influencial one's father figure was in their formative years. I am informing you for your own good so take it or leave it. The mainstream narrative has been stacked towards delusional LGBT apologetics for too long.
Happily ETS'd.
At 10/13/21 08:18 AM, TailsPrower wrote:At 10/13/21 06:04 AM, Moderatedevil wrote:It's not funny because it's not a joke.At 10/12/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:No one chooses to be sexually traumatized as a youngin.
People can definitely choose to be painfully ignorant and unfunny, however.
Ooh lordt.
Yes, sensation seeking behaviors can lead some people to try homosexual behaviors that normally wouldn't as a result of over all numbing.
However, and I'm amazed this needs any repeating:
SEXUALITY IS NON BINARY. YOU ARE NOT "EITHER GAY OR STRAIGHT." MOST PEOPLE ARE SLIGHTLY LESS THAN 100% STRAIGHT. HOWEVER, AGAIN:
SEXUALITY IS NON FUCKING BINARY
Even the gayest mother fucker on the planet could choose to try sex with a woman. I've met plenty of effeminate bisexual men who use sexual conquests over women to soothe them selves for feeling shame about being gay.
NON
FUCKING
BINARY.
It's not either 0 or 1.
They Kinsey scale has 7 FUCKING POINTS.
The only reason people think sexuality is binary is because religion made them scared having "the gay" will damn them to an imaginary hell.
You cannot be "turned"
You cannot be "raised gay"
You might get drunk and let some gay shit happen, but again, THAT WILL NOT TURN YOU 100% GAY.
In fact, it is actually straighter to have made out with one dude than 0 dudes, because if you tried being gay AND YOU DIDN'T LIKE IT, you're straighter than a dude who can only claim straightness because they've never allowed themself to try being gay.
Holy fuck, you goddamn retards.
How can I, a person who has dedicated 20 years of my life to nothing but pure unadulterated HATE, understand this, and you clueless are still bumbling around being precious about who "has the big gay."
This is a song about death. It's on mandolin.
Hate is the first step to all solutions.
You will not end bigotry until you learn to hate it.
At 10/13/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:until after you turn gay.
IT'S NOT VAMPIRISM. YOU DON'T "TURN" GAY. YOU CAN LITERALLY GET RAPED IN THE ASS, GET PAID 20$ TO SUCK A DICK, AND STILL BE ON THE SAME PLACE ON THE KINSEY SCALE.
I swear to god, it's like you guys live in constant fear Count Dickula is gonna slip you a queered cigarette and turn you into a fucking goth butt fairy.
That is NOT how this shit works.
This is a song about death. It's on mandolin.
Hate is the first step to all solutions.
You will not end bigotry until you learn to hate it.
At 10/13/21 04:54 PM, hdydisbdu wrote:At 10/12/21 08:25 PM, Slint wrote:At 10/12/21 04:57 PM, Homicide wrote:born gay or is it a choice?
Just cause I like men that doesn't make me gay
yeah you right but...
do you have a boyfriend
that's important
No ofc not I mean what is a boyfriend really? If I fuck him in the ass, does that REALLY make me gay? Didn't think so
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At 10/13/21 08:22 PM, Slint wrote:At 10/13/21 04:54 PM, hdydisbdu wrote:At 10/12/21 08:25 PM, Slint wrote:At 10/12/21 04:57 PM, Homicide wrote:born gay or is it a choice?
Just cause I like men that doesn't make me gay
yeah you right but...
do you have a boyfriend
that's important
No ofc not I mean what is a boyfriend really? If I fuck him in the ass, does that REALLY make me gay? Didn't think so
oh ok
At 10/13/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:
Anecdotals alone are inadequate counters in the sphere of objective discussion. There are other nurture factors that can contrbute to this outcome - like how present and influencial one's father figure was in their formative years. I am informing you for your own good so take it or leave it. The mainstream narrative has been stacked towards delusional LGBT apologetics for too long.
All of that is the equivalent of telling a black male they will amount to nothing but a dead thug in the streets, because statistically speaking, his fathers probably gone.
Seriously though, get a grip.
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At 10/13/21 05:25 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:Holy fuck, you goddamn retards.
How can I, a person who has dedicated 20 years of my life to nothing but pure unadulterated HATE, understand this, and you clueless are still bumbling around being precious about who "has the big gay."
At 10/14/21 10:55 AM, TailsPrower wrote:At 10/14/21 09:15 AM, Homicide wrote:My asshole has all the grip because its elasticity hasn't been fucked into oblivionAt 10/13/21 04:58 PM, TailsPrower wrote:nonsensical bullshit
get a fucking grip asshole.
Wow.
Do I just straight up fucking hate you now?
I think I pretty much hate you now.
Yeah. Yeah I do.