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thoughts on the current state of youtube?

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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-14 15:59:48


At 9/14/24 03:53 PM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/14/24 12:58 PM, Kooz83 wrote:
At 9/14/24 10:13 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/14/24 09:18 AM, Kooz83 wrote:
At 9/14/24 09:15 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/14/24 07:45 AM, Kooz83 wrote:Eventuallly someone's going to write a code that automatically ai generates random youtube kids-type slop, uploads it onto youtube and practuically print money
Actually I'm quite surprised nobody has done that yet

wait... you are telling me the slop already on there was made by people?????
but there already is a lot of AI made slop on it

Yeah, there's loads of ai slop on yt already, but I'm talking about a fully automated system that requires no input at all and generates videos continuously and brings in ad revenue

huh... yeah weird, i would have expected someone has done that already...

god thinking about it rn, this could be done with a simple bash script running ai locally a med end pc i am scared now, i am worried someone might see this and get ideas.....
edit: it gets worse the more i think about it. i am jenounly terrified of describing the implications of this setup in fear of giving people ideas. but if what i am thinking of happens, youtube is fucked

Yeah, I really hope governments do something about this soon since ai's genuinely getting out hand lately
Sometimes it sounds like something right out of a sci-fi novel

that is the scary part... idk if they can do something about it
they might be able to stop openAI and other companies from enabling this behavior, but localy run AI on someone's home computer would be much harder to enforce regulations on

ollama is relatively easy to run and can theoretically do the scraping, writing, voicing, and image generation for spam videos in a few minutes on a mid level PC. and sense it is run locally the spammer can dodge government regulations and even do very bad things that even chatgpt and dall-e won't allow like cp

If what you're saying is true then I'm seriously worried about the future of the entire internet if not more, since this can get worse than just slop content on youtube, this has some seriously bad real life potential

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-14 16:22:50


If what you're saying is true then I'm seriously worried about the future of the entire internet if not more, since this can get worse than just slop content on youtube, this has some seriously bad real life potential


for real it is terrafying.


there was that one story about highschool boys at a school in the US using AI deepfake to edit their classmates(who were obviously minors because it was a school) into porn. here is a video on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHK4-J5Sz4


as i said i will try running ollama on my computer, not generating cp obviously just testing performance and accessibility. if my used laptop with a 2016 GPU can run it well enough then we better get started on making a solution asap or we are all screwed


be back in an hour or so

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-14 17:01:23


as i said i will try running ollama on my computer, not generating cp obviously just testing performance and accessibility. if my used laptop with a 2016 GPU can run it well enough then we better get started on making a solution asap or we are all screwed

be back in an hour or so


ignore that. i am not touching this shit with a 10 foot pol and it wont be worth whatever existential horror it throws me into, the numbers on reddit were enough


also i don't want my gpu fried


At 9/14/24 02:11 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/12/24 09:54 AM, Hydweeb wrote:Recently there been a bunch of cp being flooded on there by bots so theres probably going to be another adpocalypse which sucks

wait, like actually uploaded to the site?!!?!
i am aware of bots spamming into people's comment sections and sharing links to cp discord servers if that is what you mean. but holy shit i won't be surprised at this point with how bad moderation is on small and non-english channels


Yeah some actually have cp on their home and some have discord links, what sucks is a bunch of advertisers are gonna pull before YouTube fixes it and that'll cause another adpocalypse


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-14 19:00:16


At 9/14/24 06:47 PM, Hydweeb wrote:
At 9/14/24 02:11 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/12/24 09:54 AM, Hydweeb wrote:Recently there been a bunch of cp being flooded on there by bots so theres probably going to be another adpocalypse which sucks

wait, like actually uploaded to the site?!!?!
i am aware of bots spamming into people's comment sections and sharing links to cp discord servers if that is what you mean. but holy shit i won't be surprised at this point with how bad moderation is on small and non-english channels

Yeah some actually have cp on their home and some have discord links, what sucks is a bunch of advertisers are gonna pull before YouTube fixes it and that'll cause another adpocalypse


Turkeytom moistcritikal and mutahar made videos on it I recommend watching them


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-15 05:17:30


At 9/14/24 07:00 PM, Hydweeb wrote:
At 9/14/24 06:47 PM, Hydweeb wrote:
At 9/14/24 02:11 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/12/24 09:54 AM, Hydweeb wrote:Recently there been a bunch of cp being flooded on there by bots so theres probably going to be another adpocalypse which sucks

wait, like actually uploaded to the site?!!?!
i am aware of bots spamming into people's comment sections and sharing links to cp discord servers if that is what you mean. but holy shit i won't be surprised at this point with how bad moderation is on small and non-english channels

Yeah some actually have cp on their home and some have discord links, what sucks is a bunch of advertisers are gonna pull before YouTube fixes it and that'll cause another adpocalypse

Turkeytom moistcritikal and mutahar made videos on it I recommend watching them


yeah i watched the muta one about those accounts

am not surprised they are able to run free. youtube barely moderates small channels, me and a buddy of mine used to find porn, nudes, and NSFW artists' patreon content re-uploaded to youtube

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-15 09:30:38


Succs


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-15 10:04:51


At 9/15/24 05:17 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/14/24 07:00 PM, Hydweeb wrote:
At 9/14/24 06:47 PM, Hydweeb wrote:
At 9/14/24 02:11 AM, youtherthyf wrote:
At 9/12/24 09:54 AM, Hydweeb wrote:Recently there been a bunch of cp being flooded on there by bots so theres probably going to be another adpocalypse which sucks

wait, like actually uploaded to the site?!!?!
i am aware of bots spamming into people's comment sections and sharing links to cp discord servers if that is what you mean. but holy shit i won't be surprised at this point with how bad moderation is on small and non-english channels

Yeah some actually have cp on their home and some have discord links, what sucks is a bunch of advertisers are gonna pull before YouTube fixes it and that'll cause another adpocalypse

Turkeytom moistcritikal and mutahar made videos on it I recommend watching them

yeah i watched the muta one about those accounts
am not surprised they are able to run free. youtube barely moderates small channels, me and a buddy of mine used to find porn, nudes, and NSFW artists' patreon content re-uploaded to youtube


Oh yeah there's tons of that shit especially fetish content



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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-15 18:20:16


now you have to search a lot to find real good content, cuz now youtube is just a big ass landfill for skibidi toilet and content farming


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-16 15:36:37


At 9/13/24 10:55 PM, TheGarbager619 wrote:daily uploads about "crazy insane situations"


Whatever I see the "[something/someone] situation is [insert buzzword word here]" I've got reminded of that one SsethTzeentach joke in his Dungeon Siege 2 video in which he changes the title of one of his older video to say "Penisman situation is insane".

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-17 14:08:42


At 9/12/24 07:52 PM, wiichicken wrote:I think that it's weird that they're turning the logo slightly more purple.

It's still an A/B testing thing, but they're doing it. You will be able to tell if you have this change because the video progress bar with fade to pink near the end.

The youtube logo is turning purple? Maybe it is supposed to symbolize the platform getting choked out? Darn another idea for me or could be a behind the scenes " color hex ownership " bullcrap that happens.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-17 14:10:34


At 9/12/24 08:07 PM, MoltenBomberHD wrote:I miss the old YouTube but I hate the New YouTube


Modern youtube ever since they removed the dislike button... Has gone to shit with no questions ifs or buts. The AI shlock problem will kill this platform or be a sympton... I am okay with A.i. being nerfed as in the funny meme images that came out of Dolly, but it is either this, an Elsagate situation or Youtube's shelf life actually expiring, maybe a de-merger that will hurt it.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-17 14:11:09


At 9/12/24 08:25 PM, CarolineSparkle wrote:Too many ads of Temu and Hero wars. Every five seconds, the video stops to show me Temu or Hero Wars ads.

It's driving me insane

What is Temu? I honestly barely know that advertisement due to using adblockers.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-17 16:59:06


At 9/17/24 02:08 PM, DevilRat wrote:
At 9/12/24 07:52 PM, wiichicken wrote:I think that it's weird that they're turning the logo slightly more purple.

It's still an A/B testing thing, but they're doing it. You will be able to tell if you have this change because the video progress bar with fade to pink near the end.
The youtube logo is turning purple? Maybe it is supposed to symbolize the platform getting choked out? Darn another idea for me or could be a behind the scenes " color hex ownership " bullcrap that happens.

theory time

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-17 17:22:17


At 9/17/24 02:11 PM, DevilRat wrote:
At 9/12/24 08:25 PM, CarolineSparkle wrote:Too many ads of Temu and Hero wars. Every five seconds, the video stops to show me Temu or Hero Wars ads.

It's driving me insane
What is Temu? I honestly barely know that advertisement due to using adblockers.


an online marketplace that might or might not be enabling forced labor for the production of fast fashion trash

so basically shein but newer


At 9/14/24 06:47 PM, Hydweeb wrote:cause another adpocalypse

Inshallah

so sick of these cocksuckers using the word unalive and saying "ermm i can't show you the specific details cuz i might risk losing demonetization". Demonetize all youtubers and improve the content of the site by like 100x


anyways I've pretty much spent the past few days sick watching Newgrounds videos from 2007-2012 cuz youtube is just pure garbage, you'll find a billion videos on the same subject yet say all the same things with nothing else to say which i think others here have pointed out. Also I'm sick of having culture war bs come up with my recommendations.

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-18 00:15:54


YouTube does kinda suck in numerous parts these days. So many content farms, and I am getting sick of those useless recommendations I keep getting about stuff I don't even watch. I especially hate the whole Skibidi Toilet trend. I absolutely CANNOT count how many people have been affected by that shit in my daily life as of recently. Quantity over quality has definitely become more prominent by now. Most other content may make me question what social media even is anymore, and I usually end up regretting just blindly watching random videos on the website out of sheer boredom, and then somehow thinking it's good enough. It's like even I myself can't tell exactly who to watch and who to avoid anymore.


And get this; The people who are actually TRYING don't even get any more than something like 5 likes and a couple hundred views per video. It's like I have to search through every nook and cranny just to find potential saviors.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-25 18:06:48


SHIT.

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-26 21:35:12


Not much to say about content farms as it's the Elsagate all over again. For me, I just ignore it and it doesn't come to my recommended, so that's cool.


Ipad kids is no big deal. They're kids, just let them enjoy internet on their own. When I came to the platform, it was the exact same thing, with people doing nothing but talking shit about them and cringe stuff people are nostalgic for now. They certainly will not acess the same level of gore and shock content that I got in my time from Youtube. I would see Happy Tree Friends and Saw trap clips non stop along with the YTPs and AMVs.


About AI, I don't see it as complete slop. It has some cool and harmless things you can do with it like illustrating music lyrics, doing cursed memes. Hell, me and my friends had a blast with AI dungeon just for the complete madness of the stories like: "And then he died + ratio + He drank a coffee and talked to Spongebob + ratio - ratio + cried in Spongebob's funeral and ate ants + what happened + ratio". I think it can be used as another really helpful tool in different digital media.


All the fuzz people have been saying lately of "but it's not made by humans" reminds me of when digital animation was first introduced. Everyone was saying that it wasn't the same thing and animation was dead and whatever, when really all it did was making progress all the more faster and easier. People continued to do the same thing, only with different instruments. The machine always has to come to help man, never to replace him.


Sure, AI art can originate spam and individuals requesting the machine to make something really nasty. But there's people for everything, no matter how good the intentions. We're gonna have to settle some boundaries for what is allowed and what it's not, but that's it.


Now about Youtube in full scope I think it's gotten much more extreme and sensitive, with a clear mentality of censorship applied to pretty much everything. I don't like extremes, I prefer staying in the grey area where censorship can come in certain situations but not all the time. And for politics it's the same thing.


Everyone wants to associate everything to current social political issues, which I admire the desire for debating about these subjects, but there's clearly times when we can just joke around. Do I think I take myself uber seriously when I'm chatting on 4chan or drawing some zabujard-esque Trump taking a shit? No. There's flexibility, sense of humor.


About the drama aspect, I don't think there's any problem with making channels covering it as it can be informative and entertaining (edutainment, as Turkey Tom once said), letting us know in detail what's happening. There's the problem in the fact that it’s great when everyone's pissed but when it's all cool down and there's nothing to talk about, some can go on their way to make drama where he doesn't exist. As for that, I think making other type of content that doesn't drift away to much, like brainrot, gaming, etc... That's why I can only see to much of Destiny's content and stop watching for months until I come back due to saturation and I can't miss any of TomDark's videos, or in the case of Nick DeOrio who makes less but more well made videos.


About the shitpost, I personally love it. Brainrot is such a fun form of content where the worse it gets the better, it helps to just relax and have a good laugh even if you had a bad day. It's that sense of chill and sheer stupidity that drives to channels like Jimmyhere or Meme Asylum.


Holy shit, just notice I wrote a whole Bible of a reply. Oh well, now you know my point of view. It has it's flaws but I generally look at the positive aspects.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-27 21:17:13


At 9/12/24 07:57 AM, Czyszy wrote:
At 9/11/24 04:45 PM, SuperGibaLogan wrote:im talking about ai slop, content farms, and ipad kids
what are your thoughts?

Looks like enough nails to fully seal YouTube's coffin. :)


Twitter isn't dead, despite whatever Musk is doing. It's going to keep on trucking because it's too successful to fail, and the general public isn't quick to abandon things. Just like most things in life.

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-28 11:45:25


At 9/27/24 09:17 PM, UnculturedMutt wrote:
At 9/12/24 07:57 AM, Czyszy wrote:
At 9/11/24 04:45 PM, SuperGibaLogan wrote:im talking about ai slop, content farms, and ipad kids
what are your thoughts?

Looks like enough nails to fully seal YouTube's coffin. :)

Twitter isn't dead, despite whatever Musk is doing. It's going to keep on trucking because it's too successful to fail, and the general public isn't quick to abandon things. Just like most things in life.

twitter's denfinently dead over here in brazil though

but some people use vpns though idk

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-09-28 21:20:32


At 9/12/24 08:25 PM, CarolineSparkle wrote:Too many ads of Temu and Hero wars. Every five seconds, the video stops to show me Temu or Hero Wars ads.

It's driving me insane


I never used adblockers for over a decade of using Youtube because I believe in paying for a service, even if indirectly


But getting hit with (no joke) 5 ads in the first 15 minutes of a 30 minute video convinced me that it's necessary.


Even if I can skip some of them, it ruins the whole idea of using youtube passively. Can't fall asleep to it, can't do chores with it, etc. etc.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-01 13:16:19


OMG, I literally watched Saberspark's video on this topic and man did some of the "content" slop that was shown was god awful, literally appealing to the lowest common denominator. Guess I have been ignoring these farms too well as I think they're worse than before. I think NG is in desparate need for an ad campaign that brags about being the cooler option with attitude and win over an older demo with all it's cool characters. Just like those 90s Sega ads!


At 10/1/24 01:16 PM, ejulia14 wrote:OMG, I literally watched Saberspark's video on this topic and man did some of the "content" slop that was shown was god awful, literally appealing to the lowest common denominator. Guess I have been ignoring these farms too well as I think they're worse than before. I think NG is in desparate need for an ad campaign that brags about being the cooler option with attitude and win over an older demo with all it's cool characters. Just like those 90s Sega ads!


i am not the best at song writing but-


newgrounds does *no content farms*

you can't get this on youtube, newgrounds does *full flash backwards support*

you can't do this on youtube, newgrounds *does*

newgrounds *does* newgrounds *does* newgrounds does

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Eh I'm kinda split on this one.


I love Youtube and I would hate to see it go away, but I wish the platform would go back to the way it was from 2010-2016, before demonetization and slop drama channels (besides keemstar and leafy) when you could get away with much more edgier, funnier content (look at filthy frank, maxmoefoe, and idubbbz for proof) and when animation channels could actually make a decent living.

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-03 10:55:42


People comaining about YouTube not being what their pie-in-the-sky thinking was is as old as YouTube itself, so I don't really bother.


Complaining about algorithms, regardless of validity, is more of an individual problem than anything else. I mean, if you happen to constantly search for things you like over and over again, YT is going to assume that you like it, and lean into something similar for your feed. Of course, it's still far from a foolproof system and all, but with untold millions of videos out there, of course there's going to be some misses.


I know that YouTube is far from a perfect platform and all, but a good amount of the rationale against it seems to come from either incompetence, ignorance or simple laziness, and it now has become a glorified "No you" pissing contest.


Just stop worrying, and love the bomb.

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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-06 13:07:14


At 9/26/24 09:35 PM, AZ0RZER0 wrote:


About the drama aspect, I don't think there's any problem with making channels covering it as it can be informative and entertaining (edutainment, as Turkey Tom once said), letting us know in detail what's happening. There's the problem in the fact that it’s great when everyone's pissed but when it's all cool down and there's nothing to talk about, some can go on their way to make drama where he doesn't exist. As for that, I think making other type of content that doesn't drift away to much, like brainrot, gaming, etc... That's why I can only see to much of Destiny's content and stop watching for months until I come back due to saturation and I can't miss any of TomDark's videos, or in the case of Nick DeOrio who makes less but more well made videos.


Honestly it's kinda weird seeing someone who unironically likes Turkey Tom's videos. I'm not joking, I've seen people saying that he's one of the main reasons why modern YT sucks.

Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-06 13:24:57


At 10/6/24 01:07 PM, FalenDemo5 wrote:
At 9/26/24 09:35 PM, AZ0RZER0 wrote:
About the drama aspect, I don't think there's any problem with making channels covering it as it can be informative and entertaining (edutainment, as Turkey Tom once said), letting us know in detail what's happening. There's the problem in the fact that it’s great when everyone's pissed but when it's all cool down and there's nothing to talk about, some can go on their way to make drama where he doesn't exist. As for that, I think making other type of content that doesn't drift away to much, like brainrot, gaming, etc... That's why I can only see to much of Destiny's content and stop watching for months until I come back due to saturation and I can't miss any of TomDark's videos, or in the case of Nick DeOrio who makes less but more well made videos.


Honestly it's kinda weird seeing someone who unironically likes Turkey Tom's videos. I'm not joking, I've seen people saying that he's one of the main reasons why modern YT sucks.

Yeah, and till this day people bring up the drama he had with Pyrocynical.


He's not perfect by any means. No one is. He did make some stupid remarks before and I am not a big fan of the whole lolcow podcast.


But I do like his videos in general and youtube streams. Hell, I actually watched the presidential debate from his stream, including the Springfield Dog Eaters part.


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-07 10:14:08


Well, look on the bright side, we've got "TADC" episode 3.



I'd say there's still quality on YouTube. You guys just need to lurk more, lurk more...


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Response to thoughts on the current state of youtube? 2024-10-07 10:46:45


At 10/7/24 10:14 AM, LiebherrKatsumi wrote:Well, look on the bright side, we've got "TADC" episode 3.


I'd say there's still quality on YouTube. You guys just need to lurk more, lurk more...

Yeah, pretty much dig through garbage until you see some gems. Here, all of 'em are shining right in front of your face!