At 10/24/06 10:29 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: AfroUnderscoreStud just won't improve, I write a review for advice and he gives me the arrogant response:

http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/343645

I posted that on the NGPD as well, he pisses me off.

That was not Afro´s response, it was socialy-failed. I don´t think your review was bad. You tried to give some good advice, but giving (nearly) all 0´s is not really a good idea. Try to think a little bit more about the ratings...

At 10/24/06 10:29 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: AfroUnderscoreStud just won't improve, I write a review for advice and he gives me the arrogant response:

LOL well some people are going to be that way, i know i have given some crazy responses myself, but the thing to remember if people dont want to improve on there work thats really on them, only thing you can do is give advice where it seems to be needed...

~X~

At 10/25/06 06:13 AM, ShortMonkey wrote: I know. Btw, glad to be in a club with you, XwaynecoltX! Are you on the top 50 reviewers list?

me in the top 50 reviewers list ROFL i forget, i thought i was somewhere in there years ago, or that may have been the top 10 i dont even remember LOL...

If you findout be sure to let me know?

~X~

At 10/25/06 05:51 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: Is there a thread or something that tells?

Hehe, ~X~ was just being funny. He happens to be the number one reviewer on NG by quite a bit! Here is the unofficial (but very accurate) list of the top 100 reviewers

Yeah i just wanted to see if he had noticed or not heh...

~X~

At 10/29/06 05:09 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: LOL, almost every flash I see has an ~X~ or an ((( LOL FUNNY ))) or something like that.

I try and make an interesting title but most of the time the flash really is funny lol, but anyways, anyone find any interesting flash durring daily day and the holiday, i seen so many strange yet good and funny ones...

~X~

If anyone needs some reviews just pm me and ill add it to the front of my list, which would still take about a week but i will get to them...

~X~

I can join, but what am I supposed to do here?

the only reason im seein your movies is cuase youre the bbs member dude of the day! and how! i love it all! gr8 job dood!

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/348516

I worked long on it, only got 1 review.
But i'm happy with the score.

Frax

If abyone would like to review any of my stuff please do! I will comment back on all reviews you make, thanks!

At 11/10/06 11:18 AM, Frax wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/348516

I worked long on it, only got 1 review.
But i'm happy with the score.

Frax

You should post this at the review request club, since they will get you more reviews than posting it here.

RRC

At 11/10/06 11:21 AM, fuzz wrote: If abyone would like to review any of my stuff please do! I will comment back on all reviews you make, thanks!

Same thing goes to you.

Ever since I joined this Club, I have reviewed a lot. Now, I am seeming to be lazy. Maybe I should shorten my reviews. :/

At 11/18/06 08:21 AM, Seamonky wrote: Ever since I joined this Club, I have reviewed a lot. Now, I am seeming to be lazy. Maybe I should shorten my reviews. :/

It's your choice to shorten your reviews, although that may not be a good idea. For me, my length of reviews hasn't really changed. I made 4 reviews before just to get myself back to 1k which I couldn't be arsed doing for quite a long time. :P

At 11/9/06 11:27 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote: If anyone needs some reviews just pm me and ill add it to the front of my list, which would still take about a week but i will get to them...

~X~

If you could review any of my stuff, thaat would be great! Thanks!

At 11/18/06 01:34 PM, Frenzy wrote: If you could review any of my stuff, thaat would be great! Thanks!

I have a few, give me some links of ones you want reviewed and ill add them to my to do list.

At 11/24/06 03:42 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/18/06 01:34 PM, Frenzy wrote: If you could review any of my stuff, thaat would be great! Thanks!

I have a few, give me some links of ones you want reviewed and ill add them to my to do list.

Hey, you could review my Mozilla series if you would like. No one, including the RRC, wants to review them.

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331723
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/337484
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349300
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349715

At 11/24/06 03:42 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/18/06 01:34 PM, Frenzy wrote: If you could review any of my stuff, thaat would be great! Thanks!

I have a few, give me some links of ones you want reviewed and ill add them to my to do list.

Some of my flashes, if you could review some (if not all) of them that would be grea,t thanks!

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334320
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/338970
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331734
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349790
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/336593
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331751
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/339212
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/325381
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349996
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349709
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334523
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/333011
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349189
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349070
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/304462

At 11/25/06 07:57 AM, milinko959 wrote: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331723
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/337484
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349300
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349715

Ok i have these marked down as my next to review which might not be till sunday, but these will be first on my list. requests always come first.

At 11/25/06 08:01 AM, Frenzy wrote: Some of my flashes, if you could review some (if not all) of them that would be grea,t thanks!

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334320
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/338970
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331734
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349790
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/336593
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/331751
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/339212
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/325381
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349996
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349709
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/334523
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/333011
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349189
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/349070
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/304462

And these will be done after milinkos in order of request.

Thanks people something new for me to review besides of the thousands in my folders already waiting, ill get to these tonight or sunday to start things off.

Anyone is more then welcome to request some more reviews from me feel free to pm me with the links, as i dont like to go digging in your profiles hehe.

~X~

At 11/18/06 09:19 AM, Bahamut wrote: It's your choice to shorten your reviews, although that may not be a good idea. For me, my length of reviews hasn't really changed. I made 4 reviews before just to get myself back to 1k which I couldn't be arsed doing for quite a long time. :P

I shorten my flash reviews but they still look good. Maybe I could review more this way.

Topic: Absolute or Relative Ratings?

My bro was telling me a while ago that he wished music mags gave exactly on fifth of albums a 5/5 and so on. Essentially, there should be an equal number of things getting each score.

I thought about this and realised that in a way there are 2 ways to review.Relatively and absolutely.

In reviewing relatively, we are just trying to show how things compare to each other. Get a good number of subjects to be on each point in our scale. A perfectly relative scale would constantly be updated, to ensure that the number of items with each rating remains the same. The optimum relative scale would simply be an ordered list of how we think each item compares.

In rating absolutely, we are just trying to define exactly how good each individual item is. If we take a step back and consider absolute quality, we'd probably find that the number of examples diminish as we stray further above and below mediocrity. At the same time, absolute quality has no limit.

So perhaps a perfect absolute rating scale would be a number from negative to positive infinity, with 0 representing mediocrity. I believe there was a fanzine back in the 90s that simply gave games whatever number it wanted, with no maximum cap. It certainly makes sense when some would say that games are just continually getting better.

Anyway, this got me thinking about the way I and others use rating systems. Both relative and absolute in some ways.

I ask of all reading this:
What numbers do you use most and why?
What number (if any) represents to you something that you're totally impartial about?
When rating things do you often find yourself thinking back to other things you rated, for comparison?
Do you use another magazine/person's ratings as a guide?

At 11/25/06 08:31 PM, Seamonky wrote:

At 11/18/06 09:19 AM, Bahamut wrote: It's your choice to shorten your reviews, although that may not be a good idea. For me, my length of reviews hasn't really changed. I made 4 reviews before just to get myself back to 1k which I couldn't be arsed doing for quite a long time. :P

I shorten my flash reviews but they still look good. Maybe I could review more this way.

Are you saying that your recent reviews are shorter?

They're still pretty long!

One thing I would say is that maybe it's not necessary to say some of the more obvious things or explain all elements. I mean often what you say for 'violence' or 'interactivity' often doesn't need to be said and is just taking your time and maybe not helping the author much.

Everyone's style is different. I mean, you, milinko and I all have fairly individual styles. Just do whatever works best for you.

In the favour of my own style: it means I can type stuff quickly as it comes into my head and maybe reorder the points later if I so wish (like if +/- are totally mixed up, I'll maybe take a second to organise). I can quickly check that I have indeed done what I consider the min. requirements - one positive, one negative. Also means that authors could see the points more easily than if it's in a body of text.

Anyway, as long as what you're doing is helping the author, keep it up and just do what you have time for.

At 11/25/06 08:01 AM, Frenzy wrote:

At 11/24/06 03:42 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/18/06 01:34 PM, Frenzy wrote: If you could review any of my stuff, thaat would be great! Thanks!

I have a few, give me some links of ones you want reviewed and ill add them to my to do list.

Some of my flashes, if you could review some (if not all) of them that would be grea,t thanks!

I found a few in there that I haven't already done...

Yellow Mustard
Starship Troopers SB
Rotting Brains

Yo peeps. I was just wondering how you guys decide your overall scores for Flash submissions.

I ask because I noticed a few folk saying, 'well made, but got boring' (for a game) then giving it a 6 or even 7.

I basically give 5 only if I feel purely indifferent about something and have recently tried to stop giving out 5s. 6 means I sorta vaguely like it, 7: I distinctly like it and so on. If I find a game dull or boring, I obviously don't like it and may give it a 4,3 or less, depending on how boring.

Just seemed a little odd to me, so I wondered: do you guys rate based on how much you enjoyed it, or how good you think the quality is - trying to be a tad more objective?

At 12/14/06 03:21 AM, Bezman wrote: Yo peeps. I was just wondering how you guys decide your overall scores for Flash submissions.

Well mine has always been i give an avg for each area, but for me its not really high unless the flash really stoodout, and the total avg is based on the other scores aswelll as my final thought on the entire flash, but again its not very high as i seen somany flash and see that some could be improved on.

~X~

At 12/14/06 03:21 AM, Bezman wrote: Yo peeps. I was just wondering how you guys decide your overall scores for Flash submissions.

I usually give it a score on how much I liked the flash and sometimes the quality. I know I give quite a lot of overall 10s, but other times, I will be strict on the overall score I give it (which would be around 2 - 9 depending on the quality and how much I liked it).

At 12/14/06 03:21 AM, Bezman wrote: I ask because I noticed a few folk saying, 'well made, but got boring' (for a game) then giving it a 6 or even 7.

Well every game gets boring over time and if it was well made... but yeah I know what you mean. I´ve also seen people saying stuff like: "This was great" and gave it overall 2 or 3 =S

Just seemed a little odd to me, so I wondered: do you guys rate based on how much you enjoyed it, or how good you think the quality is - trying to be a tad more objective?

The overall of my reviews depends quite a lot on how everything looks and how it sounds and if it all fits. It also depends on what the point of the flash is. I don´t really like violent movies or games for example, so I´d probably give the madness series a lower overall. And if the movie has a really crappy, unoriginal story I´d also give it a lower score (example:"there is only one man who can save us now blabla...etc.", seen plenty of stick movies with something like that). For games I also give it lower if there are bugs and glitches in it, and if I got bored soon or not.

So it´s kinda based on both the quality and how much I enjoyed it, quality being the most important thing. It´s never really the average score of my other ratings, I just think of all the bad parts and good parts and add them all together, then decide my final score.

any new interesting movies or games to review??? anything that stoodout but was not on the popular side???

~X~

At 12/15/06 06:25 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote: any new interesting movies or games to review??? anything that stoodout but was not on the popular side???

~X~

Always could check out my favorite movie's list. Most of them are pretty obscure titles you wouldn't think of as classics on NG, but I found all of them to be pretty good. I think only one movie I have in there has won a daily award or gotten above 10k views.

At 12/14/06 11:57 AM, Auz wrote:

At 12/14/06 03:21 AM, Bezman wrote: I ask because I noticed a few folk saying, 'well made, but got boring' (for a game) then giving it a 6 or even 7.

Well every game gets boring over time and if it was well made...

Maybe, but getting boring in a level-based game even before the levels are finished shows poor design in my opinion. I'd say most great games virtually never get boring. If you look at the games made by true masters - i.e. Yoshi's Island (original Snes version), Unirally, Super Mario World, just as the first few to come to my head. Played multiple times, still enjoy.

I'm not expecting most folk making internet games to have the capabilities of those top designers, but saying that 'all games get boring' and saying it isn't a problem seems almost ludicrous to me. If the game gets boring before it's finished, either shorten it or add variety!

So it´s kinda based on both the quality and how much I enjoyed it, quality being the most important thing.

I find this somewhat interesting, as it's in direct odds with the way I rate stuff, which is nowadays purely based on how much I enjoyed it.

I'd never class AH:AtWi80D as a technically great flash (although a few photoshop jobs were nice), but it constantly amuses and encourages me to educate myself about the countries, so I consistently give it 6s, sometimes 7s.

I enjoyed that boob-smacking movie ages ago. Made me laugh for far, far longer than the movie itself lasted. 10, after some deliberation.

I think I'd give no more than a 6 to any Madness movie, sometimes 4 or less, mainly because - despite the fact that it has some good qualities - I just find it boring.

I really don't care how technically 'good' something is - just whether it's fun, or makes me 'feel' something (like some empathy with the characters').

At 12/15/06 03:39 PM, milinko959 wrote: Always could check out my favorite movie's list. Most of them are pretty obscure titles you wouldn't think of as classics on NG, but I found all of them to be pretty good. I think only one movie I have in there has won a daily award or gotten above 10k views.

I know what you mean i try and add faves to my list that are different from the normal, stuff that is more artistic, allthough i do have mixture in there.

~X~

At 12/23/06 06:10 AM, CitricSquid wrote: Why hello there, spiffing crew you have here, i was wondering, could you possibly review my newgrounds Profile Creator? If you could, i would really appreciate it. <3

Review Request Club

But I'll do it anyway.