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Roe vs. Wade

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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-24 23:12:30


I stand by my stance on the issue of abortion the same way I always have. I'm not a woman, not my place to say whether or not they need one.


I also recognize there is no morality in matters of survival and reproduction and how that's handled is one of those matters. I agree with Aaron-Chandler on the notion that people have to make hard decisions that deal with life or death and the fact that people don't want to respect that over some bullshit that religious institutions fed them then that's on them.


Hence why I'm not happy about what's going on and sooner or later there probably is going to be a revolt about that. Too bad the FBI is probably going to be watching everyone now because of how angry people are due to all the fuck ups politicians made since the 80's.


It's like it's always been that decade and we're somehow back in the 70's before all this blew up today. So.... Who's ready for the next counter-culture for our time?

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 00:07:02


At 6/24/22 08:09 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/24/22 07:27 PM, Dolorious wrote: I wonder when a bunch high quality bricks will mysteriously start appearing everywhere for the useful idiots? As nice as it is to see all the people mad at not being able to kill children. I have a feeling the very possible violent outrage is exactly what they want. But for what political purpose it's moving towards is a mystery to me. Well I guess the ulterior motive will reveal itself as this progresses. In the short term I'll just be here watching as this hilarious outrage roars.

Edit: I'm sure it'll be a fiery but peaceful protest XD
Yes, yes, people are agaisnt free speech when you say they are, support pedophilism when you say they are, are child murders when you say they are.... While looking the other way, and making excises when it comes from your side. You really need to get off your ivory tower with all your absolutism, and virtual signaling.


Absolutism, fascinating that you use that term.

Who do I want absolute power invested in exactly Edy? I'm curious to see if you're answer will even be anywhere remotely close.

More importantly what side am I looking away and making excuses for specifically?


Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 00:20:29


At 6/25/22 12:07 AM, Dolorious wrote:
At 6/24/22 08:09 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/24/22 07:27 PM, Dolorious wrote: I wonder when a bunch high quality bricks will mysteriously start appearing everywhere for the useful idiots? As nice as it is to see all the people mad at not being able to kill children. I have a feeling the very possible violent outrage is exactly what they want. But for what political purpose it's moving towards is a mystery to me. Well I guess the ulterior motive will reveal itself as this progresses. In the short term I'll just be here watching as this hilarious outrage roars.

Edit: I'm sure it'll be a fiery but peaceful protest XD
Yes, yes, people are agaisnt free speech when you say they are, support pedophilism when you say they are, are child murders when you say they are.... While looking the other way, and making excises when it comes from your side. You really need to get off your ivory tower with all your absolutism, and virtual signaling.
Absolutism, fascinating that you use that term.
Who do I want absolute power invested in exactly Edy? I'm curious to see if you're answer will even be anywhere remotely close.
More importantly what side am I looking away and making excuses for specifically?


Then stop misusing words like pedophilism, murder, and other absolutes, when posting your arguments around here. And your views are often centered on criticizing the left, while constantly ignoring in your face shit from the right or from your own group.


Telling people that they want to murder kids over their abortion views is an absolute, stupid, and extreme.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 00:30:14


At 6/25/22 12:20 AM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/25/22 12:07 AM, Dolorious wrote:
At 6/24/22 08:09 PM, EdyKel wrote:
At 6/24/22 07:27 PM, Dolorious wrote: I wonder when a bunch high quality bricks will mysteriously start appearing everywhere for the useful idiots? As nice as it is to see all the people mad at not being able to kill children. I have a feeling the very possible violent outrage is exactly what they want. But for what political purpose it's moving towards is a mystery to me. Well I guess the ulterior motive will reveal itself as this progresses. In the short term I'll just be here watching as this hilarious outrage roars.

Edit: I'm sure it'll be a fiery but peaceful protest XD
Yes, yes, people are agaisnt free speech when you say they are, support pedophilism when you say they are, are child murders when you say they are.... While looking the other way, and making excises when it comes from your side. You really need to get off your ivory tower with all your absolutism, and virtual signaling.
Absolutism, fascinating that you use that term.
Who do I want absolute power invested in exactly Edy? I'm curious to see if you're answer will even be anywhere remotely close.
More importantly what side am I looking away and making excuses for specifically?
Then stop misusing words like pedophilism, murder, and other absolutes, when posting your arguments around here. And your views are often centered on criticizing the left, while constantly ignoring in your face shit from the right or from your own group.

Telling people that they want to murder kids over their abortion views is an absolute, stupid, and extreme.


Hmm didn't bother to even fully answer the question. What a shame, but again not surprised.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 01:24:57


At 6/24/22 10:40 PM, Aaron-Chandler wrote:
But that doesn't change the fact that the decision to get an abortion is the decision to willfully deprive a human life of the opportunity to exist at all. This is not a simple thing. It does effect more people than the mother. And it isn't just your child.


wait, you think this is specifically about abortion?


how silly, SCOTUS ruled nothing on abortion


what they ruled was that the states must have the right to write and enforce laws that act on people's personal lives and choices


abortion is of course affected, but this ruling also removes protections for gay marriage, contraception, sodomy (anal and blowjobs), porn, masturbation, interracial marriage...


buddy, the whole lid is blown wide open, there is no legal precedent protecting any of this from states enacting laws against them


i don't like abortions either, but this nuked everything to take it down, and you're gonna experience the repercussions of it years to come


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 02:28:15


At 6/25/22 01:24 AM, Gario wrote:


abortion is of course affected, but this ruling also removes protections for gay marriage, contraception, sodomy (anal and blowjobs), porn, masturbation, interracial marriage...


Exactly. Civil Rights that were granted protection under federal law are now under threat of being taken away under the guise of saying that it should be states that decided that.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 05:58:19


At 6/24/22 05:12 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
Wow, that's actually a very balanced perspective from you, Edy. Not being sarcastic btw. I think "women will be prosecuted for miscarriage" is simply fear-mongering though.


Not really.


The state is going to have to prove intent before a jury of their peers, keep in mind, so any charge will have to go through a common-sense test involving the average person with a potential for jury nullification if they feel it is necessary.


Considering the utter madness that regularly unfolds from your courts, I don't think this'll have the effect you are assuming.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 07:32:48


Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.


Some people are freaking out too much. Its not going anywhere for blue staters. And more states rights is almost always a good thing, allowing people in different parts of this vast country to have some measure of political autonomy. If rulings like this steer peoples focus towards their own state and its local politics, that would be a good thing.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 07:54:24


At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.

If you check the responses there’s videos of them pushing back on it.

There’s equivalent videos for stuff like Extinction Rebellion where protestors are in the road.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 08:52:12 (edited 2022-06-25 09:00:01)


Time to Andrew Jackson this shit and flat out ignore the supreme Court.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 09:47:49 (edited 2022-06-25 09:49:15)


At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.


  1. It says Cedar Rapids, Iowa in the tweet you linked, not Georgia.
  2. "Iowa is one of three states, along with Oklahoma and Florida, to enact laws this year giving drivers some degree of legal immunity if they use their vehicles to hurt protesters, part of a wave of “hit and kill” bills introduced in 13 other states by Republican legislators since 2017."


Oops.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 10:39:05


At 6/25/22 09:47 AM, Zachary wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
"Iowa is one of three states, along with Oklahoma and Florida, to enact laws this year giving drivers some degree of legal immunity if they use their vehicles to hurt protesters, part of a wave of “hit and kill” bills introduced in 13 other states by Republican legislators since 2017."

Oops.

Jeez that’s incredibly bonkers legislation…



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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 10:44:55


At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.


> claims that pro-life protestors got run over in Georgia

> Tweet linked to along with other Tweets reporting on this says that the protestors were pro-choice and this took place in Iowa


Nice try at spreading misinformation, kid.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 11:22:29 (edited 2022-06-25 11:26:24)


At 6/25/22 11:06 AM, awdgamer123 wrote: I usually tend to stay out of this stuff (I must admit that I'm not too well versed in politics) but I don't see why people are getting so butthurt over this? Doesn't this mean that it's the state's choice now? Some states can ban abortions, but others don't have to or the Governor and State Reps can even be pressured into implementing the kind of abortions you want. Like if you live in Connecticut, literally nothing is gonna change as far as abortions are concerned.
At 6/25/22 01:24 AM, Gario wrote:
At 6/24/22 10:40 PM, Aaron-Chandler wrote:
But that doesn't change the fact that the decision to get an abortion is the decision to willfully deprive a human life of the opportunity to exist at all. This is not a simple thing. It does effect more people than the mother. And it isn't just your child.
wait, you think this is specifically about abortion?

how silly, SCOTUS ruled nothing on abortion

what they ruled was that the states must have the right to write and enforce laws that act on people's personal lives and choices

abortion is of course affected, but this ruling also removes protections for gay marriage, contraception, sodomy (anal and blowjobs), porn, masturbation, interracial marriage...

buddy, the whole lid is blown wide open, there is no legal precedent protecting any of this from states enacting laws against them

i don't like abortions either, but this nuked everything to take it down, and you're gonna experience the repercussions of it years to come
You're talking as though America is gonna go back to the 40s or something. You do realize that it's been illegal to discriminate based on race ever since the Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, don't you? As for the other stuff, it's highly unlikely stuff like gay marriage and contraception will get banned due to the amount of pushback it'll cause and even if they did, like I said before, you can just move to a state that does allow them.


We're "butthurt" over this because, among a multitude of other reasons, the people who'll need abortions (rape victims, those who might die from complications from pregnancy, those carrying a fetus expected to have a poor quality of life or outright die, those who do not have the financial resources to have and/or raise a child etc.) could very well lose their ability to get one in many states (which is now happening as we speak), and because of this and the possibility that some may need to travel across many states for an abortion (which some may not be able to afford), more and more people will likely turn to more dangerous abortion procedures that can put the life and wellbeing of people who undergo them at risk.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 11:39:29


At 6/25/22 11:06 AM, awdgamer123 wrote: I usually tend to stay out of this stuff (I must admit that I'm not too well versed in politics) but I don't see why people are getting so butthurt over this? Doesn't this mean that it's the state's choice now? Some states can ban abortions, but others don't have to or better yet (for you), the Governor and State Reps can even be pressured into implementing the kind of unrestricted abortions you want. Like if you live in Connecticut, literally nothing is gonna change as far as abortions are concerned.


The problem is not just people in red states not having access to safe abortions, because even though abortions will be banned they still will be taking place in a more dangerous setting, but also the reasoning given behind the ruling.


The same reasoning given to repeal Roe v. Wade can be used to repeal other rulings like gay marriage, which was explicitly mentioned by Justice Thomas.


Rights are being taken away from Americans and that is why people are "butthurt".


At 6/25/22 01:24 AM, Gario wrote:
At 6/24/22 10:40 PM, Aaron-Chandler wrote:
But that doesn't change the fact that the decision to get an abortion is the decision to willfully deprive a human life of the opportunity to exist at all. This is not a simple thing. It does effect more people than the mother. And it isn't just your child.
wait, you think this is specifically about abortion?

how silly, SCOTUS ruled nothing on abortion

what they ruled was that the states must have the right to write and enforce laws that act on people's personal lives and choices

abortion is of course affected, but this ruling also removes protections for gay marriage, contraception, sodomy (anal and blowjobs), porn, masturbation, interracial marriage...

buddy, the whole lid is blown wide open, there is no legal precedent protecting any of this from states enacting laws against them

i don't like abortions either, but this nuked everything to take it down, and you're gonna experience the repercussions of it years to come
You're talking as though America is gonna go back to the 40s or something. You do realize that it's been illegal to discriminate based on race ever since the Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, don't you? As for the other stuff, it's highly unlikely stuff like gay marriage and contraception will get banned due to the amount of pushback it'll cause and even if they did, like I said before, you can just move to a state that does allow them.


It is not reasonable to force someone to move if they want to get married to someone they love. Pretty strange anti-American take.



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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 11:43:18 (edited 2022-06-25 11:51:49)


At 6/25/22 11:22 AM, EnterTheTwilitRealm wrote: We're "butthurt" over this because, among a multitude of other reasons, the people who'll need abortions (rape victims, those who might die from complications from pregnancy, those carrying a fetus expected to have a poor quality of life or outright die, those who do not have the financial resources to have and/or raise a child etc.) could very well lose their ability to get one in many states (which is now happening as we speak), and because of this and the possibility that some may need to travel across many states for an abortion (which some may not be able to afford), more and more people will likely turn to more dangerous abortion procedures that can put the life and wellbeing of people who undergo them at risk.


Adding onto this since the edit window closed (sorry), Roe v. Wade being overturned also sets a dark precedent on overturning other landmark cases like Obergefell v. Hodges and Griswold v. Connecticut that, if overturned, will further strip the rights and protections of United States citizens, especially those in marginalized communities. Making things worse is how Clarence Thomas, one of the Supreme Court justices who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade, has already called for both cases to be "reconsidered", and considering the affiliations of the majority of the judges (him included) and how Roe v. Wade was overturned, we could very well see both of these cases (and potentially more) being overturned as well.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 12:07:54


Yup, some are really hoping for violence from the left over this, even to the point they see it where none excist.


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Right-wing media has long been convinced any pallets of bricks are solely the property of anti-fascist activists.

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“@CapitolPolice why are there 20 pallets of bricks one block from the House Office Buildings?” Boebert tweeted, apparently alluding to the standard bricks the right believes are owned by potential antifa activists.

Yet as it turned out, the bricks are part of an ongoing construction project on First Street in Washington D.C., according to signs right next to the pallets.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 12:56:08


At 6/25/22 11:06 AM, awdgamer123 wrote:
You're talking as though America is gonna go back to the 40s or something. You do realize that it's been illegal to discriminate based on race ever since the Congress passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964, don't you?


you'll notice that not once did i say SCOTUS would repeal the Civil Rights act, that's a law, not a precedent


gotta have congress pass a law to take that down


As for the other stuff, it's highly unlikely stuff like gay marriage and contraception will get banned due to the amount of pushback it'll cause and even if they did, like I said before, you can just move to a state that does allow them.


uh


clarence thomas already said SCOTUS is going to review both of those cases in an attempt to repeal them


maybe you should keep up with the news



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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:05:02


At 6/25/22 09:47 AM, Zachary wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
Oops.


Always interesting to hear how self-defense works from the Anti-Rittenhouse brigade.


Are you ever gonna mention the fact that witnesses and the media claim he was intentionally trying to run over protesters and moved around several cars to do so? It is the exact opposite of the picture you try to paint.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truck-driver-rams-into-protesters-roe-demonstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399


Multiple witnesses, including one of the victims, described the scene in interviews with HuffPost: The male driver was waiting behind several cars at a red light downtown as a throng of protesters crossed the street.

He became “impatient,” as several witnesses said, and hit the gas, maneuvering around several cars to ram protesters.

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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:09:35


At 6/25/22 10:44 AM, EnterTheTwilitRealm wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
> claims that pro-life protestors got run over in Georgia
> Tweet linked to along with other Tweets reporting on this says that the protestors were pro-choice and this took place in Iowa

Nice try at spreading misinformation, kid.


The incident went exactly as I described it and they were not pro choice protesters, lol. I grant that I made a mistake on the location but that is literally it. But knowing how your type works I imagine you will forever believe the nonsense you are saying.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:12:13


At 6/25/22 11:06 AM, awdgamer123 wrote: I usually tend to stay out of this stuff (I must admit that I'm not too well versed in politics) but I don't see why people are getting so butthurt over this? Doesn't this mean that it's the state's choice now? Some states can ban abortions, but others don't have to or better yet (for you), the Governor and State Reps can even be pressured into implementing the kind of unrestricted abortions you want. Like if you live in Connecticut, literally nothing is gonna change as far as abortions are concerned.


Slavery use to be considered a state right, along with segregation, and Jim crow laws. States can be just as tyranical as the federal government, by denying basic rights to certain groups that goes agaisnt the spirit of the Constitution.. Abortions are a privacy issue, as well as being a civil right's one. And the Christian conservative Justices, who overturned the precedent set by Roe vs Wade, could easily lead to the repeal of other privacy and civil rights that people enjoy under federal protection, all for religious theocracy.

Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:17:48 (edited 2022-06-25 13:18:13)


At 6/25/22 01:05 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
At 6/25/22 09:47 AM, Zachary wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
Oops.
Always interesting to hear how self-defense works from the Anti-Rittenhouse brigade.


You must be referring to someone other than me because I think Rittenhouse had a valid case of self-defense and I have always had that position.



Are you ever gonna mention the fact that witnesses and the media claim he was intentionally trying to run over protesters and moved around several cars to do so? It is the exact opposite of the picture you try to paint.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truck-driver-rams-into-protesters-roe-demonstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399


I am not trying to paint any picture. He was intentionally trying to run people over if he went around other cars to plow through them. If they started banging on his window and grabbing at him before that, then he would have a justified reason to flee.


The incident went exactly as I described it and they were not pro choice protesters, lol. I grant that I made a mistake on the location but that is literally it. But knowing how your type works I imagine you will forever believe the nonsense you are saying.


If you click the link in your article about the interview with the driver it says this:


Indivisible Iowa and Planned Parenthood Advocates of Iowa organized the rally in response to the United States Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Verbal confrontations started between protesters and truck driver, leading to a pedestrian getting hit.


Indivisible Iowa and Planned Parenthood are both pro-choice organizations. You are wrong.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:20:30 (edited 2022-06-25 13:25:22)


At 6/25/22 01:09 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
At 6/25/22 10:44 AM, EnterTheTwilitRealm wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
> claims that pro-life protestors got run over in Georgia
> Tweet linked to along with other Tweets reporting on this says that the protestors were pro-choice and this took place in Iowa

Nice try at spreading misinformation, kid.
The incident went exactly as I described it and they were not pro choice protesters, lol. I grant that I made a mistake on the location but that is literally it. But knowing how your type works I imagine you will forever believe the nonsense you are saying.


No you were right that they were pro choice lol. Its on me for speed-reading. I would just edit my.comment but ill keep it up for you to have your victory. Imagine doing that after getting all you want politically. Madness.


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:31:55


At 6/25/22 01:05 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
Are you ever gonna mention the fact that witnesses and the media claim he was intentionally trying to run over protesters and moved around several cars to do so? It is the exact opposite of the picture you try to paint.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truck-driver-rams-into-protesters-roe-demonstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399


perhaps you should read the headline


that was a conservative running over pro-choice protestors, you fucking idiot


so yeah, the anti-rittenhouse people are quite validated to call you idiots terrorist psychopaths


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:39:53 (edited 2022-06-25 13:50:20)


Almost 100% of these rioters just want to yell and make noise. That is their job as a protestor, after all.


The MINUSCULE amount of blood spilled is barely worth mentioning. They aren’t terrorists, they are just very confused and angry people.


if I may be so bold, I think the future implications of America, population 400,000,000+ would be more informative and interesting to our lurkers.


(we may finally have enough workers to open a fricking dining room at Arby’s for once)


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 13:40:46


At 6/25/22 01:05 PM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote:
At 6/25/22 09:47 AM, Zachary wrote:
At 6/25/22 07:32 AM, GenericDungeonSlime wrote: Didn't even take a day and the serious violence from the pro abortion side has already begun. Some dude tried to run over a couple of pro life women in GA.
Oops.
Always interesting to hear how self-defense works from the Anti-Rittenhouse brigade.


You mean the guy who lied about his age and experience to place himself into potential danger, while having a gun that was straw-bought for him because he wasn't old enough to buy it, and ended up panicking that led to people being killed and hurt?


And you are trying to compare this to self defense by drivers in cars hitting protestors, without all the facts, because you are desperate to argue that lefties are violent by anything you can find, while having the exact opposite argument over Jan 6th where over 140 police officers were hurt, and million in damages was done, to the heart of our democracy, all over a lie.


Are you ever gonna mention the fact that witnesses and the media claim he was intentionally trying to run over protesters and moved around several cars to do so? It is the exact opposite of the picture you try to paint.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/truck-driver-rams-into-protesters-roe-demonstration-in-iowa_n_62b66490e4b0cdccbe6b9399


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 14:03:54


What do we call it when a group of protesters storm a government building filled with our lawmakers and representatives, forcing them to flee? To me, it is a fairly ordinary protest and not all that uncommon, but I swear we have a been using a new term to describe just this sort of behavior. Anyone want to fill me in?


Brahm Resnik on Twitter: "AND THEN… Senate immediately bails out because of ‘security situation.’ Area outside Senate filled with people protesting Roe decision. They appear to have entered building. https://t.co/scZfijFz4G" / Twitter


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 14:08:14


At 6/25/22 01:39 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
if I may be so bold, I think the future implications of America, population 400,000,000+ would be more informative and interesting to our lurkers.


neat


it's not like it's a common theme of fascists to want to radically increase a nation's birthrate to achieve whatever ends they have


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 14:11:05


At 6/25/22 02:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/25/22 01:39 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
if I may be so bold, I think the future implications of America, population 400,000,000+ would be more informative and interesting to our lurkers.
neat

it's not like it's a common theme of fascists to want to radically increase a nation's birthrate to achieve whatever ends they have


More people = bad


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Response to Roe vs. Wade 2022-06-25 14:19:54


At 6/25/22 02:08 PM, Gario wrote:
At 6/25/22 01:39 PM, BUM-DRILLER wrote:
if I may be so bold, I think the future implications of America, population 400,000,000+ would be more informative and interesting to our lurkers.
neat

it's not like it's a common theme of fascists to want to radically increase a nation's birthrate to achieve whatever ends they have

I guess anyone who wants to have a family or make it easier for others to have families who want them is some sort of nazi skinhead.


It's really not mentally healthy to try to avoid thinking about any topic that Bad People once thought about. I know it's mostly just bad faith, a paper-thin attempt at guilt-by-association, but still, it's not good for you. The fertility rate and how it affects societies economically and socially is a hotly debated subject. Every economically advanced country is experiencing the trend of low birth rates and it has the potential for a lot of negative downsides. Ghost cities, the elderly not being able to collect on their social security, are all real possibilities and there are more. Most countries aren't really sure what to do about it, if anything. Some put in policies to make it cheaper for people to form families, to moderate success.


In short, it's a legitimate debate and you are just shooting yourselves in the foot by pretending it's not.


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